OOC - [Epic] - Scions of the Endless Falls - Full

[Ferrix]

Rikandur, you are going to need Epic Leadership to get a cohort who is above ECL 17, and even at your level with your Charisma bonus, at best you would get one ECL 21 cohort with the Epic Leadership feat.

Ah... after re-reading the Possession section in the BoVD, you can't add such a massive bonus via your demon servants.

Enhancer: A fiend can possess a Tiny or larger weapon or armor and enhance it as if it were a magic item. The fiend can duplicate magic item powers worth up to 2,000gp per Hit Die. For example, a Hezrou (9HD) that enhances a longsword could bestow up to 18,000gp worth of powers upon it. It could duplicate the effect of a +3 longsword, or a +1 unholy longsword, or another combination. A fiend that possess magic armor or a magic weapon can increase its power by the same amount.

That's the important part. Thus, you are going to have to choose a single cohort with an ECL no higher than 17. That would be for example:

Succubus (6HD) +6 LA +5 class levels = ECL 17 (11HD) or up to 22,000gp equivalent when she possesses something. Meaning, she couldn't even add the equivalent of a +1 increase on an existing +7 weapon, as bringing it from +7 to +8 requires 30,000gp (98,000 -> 128,000gp).

If you could somehow get a 17HD demon that was ECL 17 (there aren't any), it would still only be 34,000gp. Just over enough to bring your weapon to an effective +8.

Meaning your demon possessing your weapon and adding the equivalent total of +12 in special abilities is right out.

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Thanks Ferrix. I thought that looked rather extraordinarily good, but I didn't have time to go over the math.

 

[gabrion]

Isida, I wanted to make a character for this game, but I had some questions about chargen. I know you outline stuff on the first page, but I had a question about OA. Will you allow the Iajutsu Master PrC and will you allow a feat similar to quick draw, but for sheathing a weapon instead?

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Iajutsu Master - No. Quick Sheath - Yes.

 

[Ferrix]

Iajutsu Master - No. Quick Sheath - Yes.

*Laughs* Well, seeing as iajutsu master is a no, quick sheath is going to be a very suboptimal feat

 

[gabrion]

Haha...maybe I shouldn't have made my plan so obvious and she would have let it go. Let me try to think of another use for Quick Sheath....hm, nothing is coming to mind. A few more questions.

1) Do you allow the Ur Priest PrC?
2) With Divine Metamagic+Persistent Spell+Nightsticks, how much abuse do you allow. Every time I've played Epic thus far, I've found that it is often the players' job to limit their own power in order to keep things fun. How high powered is your game. Let me go look at the rogue gallery...
3) Thrall of Demogorgon PrC (of course I will have forsaken that foolish fiend by this time, but I think a few levels in the class would be cool).

 

[Kelleris]

Haha...maybe I shouldn't have made my plan so obvious and she would have let it go. Let me try to think of another use for Quick Sheath....hm, nothing is coming to mind. A few more questions.

Perhaps a 3.0 Exotic Weapon Master who carries a dozen or more weapons, drawing the right one for any given situation?

2) With Divine Metamagic+Persistent Spell+Nightsticks, how much abuse do you allow. Every time I've played Epic thus far, I've found that it is often the players' job to limit their own power in order to keep things fun. How high powered is your game. Let me go look at the rogue gallery...

There are some differences of opinion as the cheese-factor of various characters. I'd be interested to see your opinion.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

There are some differences of opinion as the cheese-factor of various characters. I'd be interested to see your opinion.

I think I'll pass... I would probably get discouraged and be gone before them game began.

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

Haha...maybe I shouldn't have made my plan so obvious and she would have let it go. Let me try to think of another use for Quick Sheath....hm, nothing is coming to mind. A few more questions.

1) Do you allow the Ur Priest PrC?

Nope.

2) With Divine Metamagic+Persistent Spell+Nightsticks, how much abuse do you allow. Every time I've played Epic thus far, I've found that it is often the players' job to limit their own power in order to keep things fun. How high powered is your game. Let me go look at the rogue gallery...

I don't know what Divine Metamagic or Nightsticks are, so no go.

3) Thrall of Demogorgon PrC (of course I will have forsaken that foolish fiend by this time, but I think a few levels in the class would be cool).

Hmm... Forsaking the fiend would mean you forsake the class abilities.

 

[gabrion]

Hmm...not that I want to push my luck (even though it hasn't been great so far), Ur Priest and the Divine Metamagic Feat are from the Complete Divine, so is there a particular reason they wont be allowed?

Basically, Divine Metamagic lets you choose one metamagic feat and when you use that feat on a divine spell, you can power it with uses of turn/rebuke undead instead of raising the level of the spell. It's very "expensive" though. You have to spend a number of turn attempts equal to 1+the level increase of the metamagic feat.

@Keleris-I did take a look at the other character, but only their level progression since I couldn't find the thread in the rogues gallery. Are these guys posted somewhere?