OOC - [Epic] - Scions of the Endless Falls - Full

[Brother Shatterstone]

Hmm...not that I want to push my luck (even though it hasn't been great so far), Ur Priest and the Divine Metamagic Feat are from the Complete Divine, so is there a particular reason they wont be allowed?

As Isida said she didn't know the feats and I know without a doubt she doesn't have the Complete Divine so that was probaly a factor...

 

[Kelleris]

I think I'll pass... I would probably get discouraged and be gone before them game began.

Must you thwart my nefarious plan? There was actually quite a lot of venom involved, so I guess I can forgive you for not wanting to dip your toe in that water. I've been kinda wondering how this first fight'll go, so I have more to judge by.

gabrion - Here is our Rogue's Gallery. It doesn't have all the characters, and it has several who've dropped, but there you go. In case you're wondering, Fairweather is our NPC base holder/advice groupie.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

In case you're wondering, Fairweather is our NPC base holder/advice groupie.

Naw... I never forget one of my former character's wife...

I see Wrahn is up to no good as usual.

 

[Kelleris]

Naw... I never forget one of my former character's wife...

I see Wrahn is up to no good as usual.

Heh. That was more for gabrion's benefit, but there you go.

I'm not going to comment on Wrahn, stop tempting me!

 

[gabrion]

There are some differences of opinion as the cheese-factor of various characters. I'd be interested to see your opinion.

I looked though the characters and I don't see anyone who is amazingly cheesy, but I would have to see fighting tactics as well. Wrahn has the most powerful character at first glance, Kelleris' bard is a good skill monkey, but I wonder what the ex-assassin bit is good for (who wont beat a 29 DC? fort save), and the cleric is suprisingly un-optimized.

I'm still curious though about the players' attitudes in this game. Is it a free-for-all power grab, or a laid-back game of balance?

 

[Kelleris]

...Kelleris' bard is a good skill monkey, but I wonder what the ex-assassin bit is good for (who won't beat a DC 29 fort save)...?

It's just part of the character. Like the 7 Wisdom - Arion avoids periapts of wisdom and such because he feels that they change his personality too much. Though, I should note that the save DC isn't utterly useless - it's just crap against, er, the carefully-built characters we've got here. It would possibly work against certain CR 30ish monsters. Besides, I did get some bonus feats out of the deal from swapping out the SA dice.

I see the Assassin levels as the 30th-level equivalent of dropping skill points into a "useless" Craft or Knowledge skill for flavor, basically.

*shrug* It's just not a completely optimized character - it's pretty close to how powerful I think a 30th-level character should be, if you wanted my opinion. Arion had one level in 3.0 Swashbuckler earlier that I dropped to cut down on the cheese factor. I've also avoided items of continuous true seeing, bracers of armor of heavy fortification, a permanent touchsight item, and a few other things I think just reek of cheddar.

I'm still curious though about the players' attitudes in this game. Is it a free-for-all power grab, or a laid-back game of balance?

Opinions vary. I tried to make it the latter by being careful making my character, though. That's the kind of game I'd like to play.

Oh, and I think Sigrun may surprise you - Constructors didn't really get any weaker under the XPH rules, and they were disgustingly deadly before. Check out his proposed first turn, if you don't believe me.

 

[gabrion]

Oh, and I think Sigrun may surprise you - Constructors didn't really get any weaker under the XPH rules, and they were disgustingly deadly before. Check out his proposed first turn, if you don't believe me.

Ya, I didn't comment on the Psion cause I'm really bad at guessing their power level. Very powerful is usually a good gues though.

@ Isida-It was pointed out that you do not have Complete Divine, so if this is the reason for not allowing certain material from there, would it help if I gave you a write up of the Ur Priest?

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

I have the Ur-Priest in its Book of Vile Darkness incarnation. It scares me mightily and would make the DM cry. No Ur-Priest please.

 

[Wrahn]

I think I'll pass... I would probably get discouraged and be gone before them game began.

Does that mean you are not going to be playing? I think that would be a shame, I would enjoy playing in another game with you.

I'm still curious though about the players' attitudes in this game. Is it a free-for-all power grab, or a laid-back game of balance?

Perhaps this will help you understand my reason for playing the game. I have always viewed role playing games as a type of cooperative story telling. The war game aspect of it is secondary to me. (ie the stats and combat)

 

[gabrion]

I have the Ur-Priest in its Book of Vile Darkness incarnation. It scares me mightily and would make the DM cry. No Ur-Priest please.

LOL...Well as long as you have a reason then I have no qualms with your ruling. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't because of lack of familiarity. You didn't say anything about Divine Metamagic though...does it sound so bad?

So I'm thinking of putting together a Thri-Keen (SS) Monk 2/Cleric 7/Sacred Fist 10/Kensai 8
Sacred Fist is also from CD though, so I don't know at this point if you are allowing anything from that book. Let me know before I commence number crunching.

@Wrahn-That helps. My character will be fun to play and will be able to hold his own, but I'll lay off the cheese if we can all promise to actually tell a story.