OOC: House Millithor in COSQ part 4
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Serpenteye
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Xael said:
Maybe, though perhaps there should have been. Perhaps Goddess F A was more in favour of the grapple-plan, and Endur based his descision on that.
Endur
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A couple of quick comments on why I posted the actions I did.
We are not all sitting around a table looking at a battle map. So I have to make interpretations. Sometimes people don't make posts for days at a time. Sometimes they don't post on the exact issue that has to be resolved.
With regards to Zieggrek, Goddess Fallen Angel's post was ambiguous so I chose a grapple under the theory that seemed the most natural combat action if you want to avoid being slain by the sword. If she wants to change it to a disarm or a sunder, we have the die rolls, so its relatively easy to retroactively make a change.
With regards to Kripp, he hasn't made a post yet, so I left it blank until I hear what spell he wanted to cast.
With regards to the vampires, the answer is no, they did not have the actions to get close and help Zieggrek. The monster manual does not say how vampires can command their spawn. The MM leaves it up to the GM to decide how that happens, like many other details of the various monsters (like how often do vampires need to drink blood, once an hour, three times a day, once a week, once a century, etc?). I made a GM interpretation that since Vampires have a Dominate power, that would be the rules that would be used for controlling their spawn. So all the vampires spent a standard action to command their minions to attack and then used their move action to move closer. On the plus side, I did let all of those commands occur simultaneously. I could have made it last several rounds for the commands to percolate down to the field troops.
Finally, vampires in running water do not turn to gaseous form. The MM says a vampire can be destroyed by being in running water for three rounds. If the vampire could escape the running water through gaseous form, then this vulnerability would be useless.
We are not all sitting around a table looking at a battle map. So I have to make interpretations. Sometimes people don't make posts for days at a time. Sometimes they don't post on the exact issue that has to be resolved.
With regards to Zieggrek, Goddess Fallen Angel's post was ambiguous so I chose a grapple under the theory that seemed the most natural combat action if you want to avoid being slain by the sword. If she wants to change it to a disarm or a sunder, we have the die rolls, so its relatively easy to retroactively make a change.
With regards to Kripp, he hasn't made a post yet, so I left it blank until I hear what spell he wanted to cast.
With regards to the vampires, the answer is no, they did not have the actions to get close and help Zieggrek. The monster manual does not say how vampires can command their spawn. The MM leaves it up to the GM to decide how that happens, like many other details of the various monsters (like how often do vampires need to drink blood, once an hour, three times a day, once a week, once a century, etc?). I made a GM interpretation that since Vampires have a Dominate power, that would be the rules that would be used for controlling their spawn. So all the vampires spent a standard action to command their minions to attack and then used their move action to move closer. On the plus side, I did let all of those commands occur simultaneously. I could have made it last several rounds for the commands to percolate down to the field troops.
Finally, vampires in running water do not turn to gaseous form. The MM says a vampire can be destroyed by being in running water for three rounds. If the vampire could escape the running water through gaseous form, then this vulnerability would be useless.
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Endur
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One other comment.
The Vampires in the chasm in gaseous form were not incompetent. They were new born vampires. So they may not have realized that gaseous form is the worst case ability that a vampire never wants to use.
You can't really compare a vampire that is a day or two old to a vampire that has been using his abilities for centuries.
With regards to being bunched up, that is normal for ancient tactics. Yes, with modern day weapons (bombs, machine guns, etc.), bunching up is frowned upon tactically, but it still happens even today. Why? because its necessary for command and control of the troops.
In reality, command and control is not a free action. Something like 50%-75% of the actions that the army takes might be C&C related and only 25%-50% would actually be attack/move actions.
The Vampires in the chasm in gaseous form were not incompetent. They were new born vampires. So they may not have realized that gaseous form is the worst case ability that a vampire never wants to use.
You can't really compare a vampire that is a day or two old to a vampire that has been using his abilities for centuries.
With regards to being bunched up, that is normal for ancient tactics. Yes, with modern day weapons (bombs, machine guns, etc.), bunching up is frowned upon tactically, but it still happens even today. Why? because its necessary for command and control of the troops.
In reality, command and control is not a free action. Something like 50%-75% of the actions that the army takes might be C&C related and only 25%-50% would actually be attack/move actions.
Serpenteye
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How often do Vampires need to feed anyway, iyc? Do they need to sleep during the "day"?
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Ok, people. I'm all out of ideas. I don't see any way for us to beat this thing, and unfortunately we're too many to all be able to escape via teleportation (for now
).
Do you have any suggestions?
Once this battle is over I'll find Ki'Willis a cleric of nearly any evil deity who will accept drow followers and convert. She's utterly annoyed with Lolth by now (for her weakness, her breach of contract, her failure in Ki'Willis own test of faith (yes, the Matron is going insane)) and will desert her at her earliest convenience. It's all too clear to her that any amount of weakling followers are less powerful than the abilith to prepare and cast 8th level spells. Power, power to defeat Irae and restore the House to glory, is more important than any tradition or superstitious fear.
I just recalled that Loviatar has a whole nation of Drow worshipers in Dambrach (iirc), maybe she would be a better choice.
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Ok, people. I'm all out of ideas. I don't see any way for us to beat this thing, and unfortunately we're too many to all be able to escape via teleportation (for now
).Do you have any suggestions?
Once this battle is over I'll find Ki'Willis a cleric of nearly any evil deity who will accept drow followers and convert. She's utterly annoyed with Lolth by now (for her weakness, her breach of contract, her failure in Ki'Willis own test of faith (yes, the Matron is going insane)) and will desert her at her earliest convenience. It's all too clear to her that any amount of weakling followers are less powerful than the abilith to prepare and cast 8th level spells. Power, power to defeat Irae and restore the House to glory, is more important than any tradition or superstitious fear.
I just recalled that Loviatar has a whole nation of Drow worshipers in Dambrach (iirc), maybe she would be a better choice.
Endur
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I have not had time to check any of the vampire specific d&d materials (Ravenloft Von Rhictofen's guide). If anybody has the time to check, we'll go with that rule. Otherwise, I think they need to feed on a daily basis, but they do not have to drain someone completely every day.
Sleeping during the day: only on the surface world. In the Underdark, they still need to sleep but they can choose their sleep cycle. Again, I'm willing to go with Von Rhictoven if it has alternative rules.
Sleeping during the day: only on the surface world. In the Underdark, they still need to sleep but they can choose their sleep cycle. Again, I'm willing to go with Von Rhictoven if it has alternative rules.
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I believe Hruggek is now recruiting a few foul characters…Serpenteye said:
Not sure it’s its true or not but yeah I can see Loviatar... Lolth and her could be twins separated at birth.Serpenteye said:
I have no suggestions on how we live through this...
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