OOC Kingdom of Ashes V - Brood city, baby!
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The_Universe
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Yes you get XP - is anyone close to leveling? If not, I'll just wait and fold it in to the next part of the game. However, if someone *is* close to leveling, and the amount in question would be sufficient to kick them up a notch, I'll award it now.Laurel said:I know we didn't fight last time, but do we get any XP... just one point even
Queen_Dopplepopolis
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We aren't looking for information specifically *about* Quarion, though either. We're looking for information he may have passed down.Archon said:
The_Universe
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This is where the music gets louder.
As a general note, this is the part of the story where everything/everyone is supposed to start to come together. This is where Cyclops and Wolverine put aside their differences to go fight Magneto, where the group finally settles into their "perfect" roles, and defeat evil with the strength of their bonds of loyalty, etc. and then ride off into the sunset, or whatever.
We're approaching the finale(s) of our grand epic, and so getting the little interpersonal squabbles resolved is very important. Your characters have all bitched and bickered at eachother (sometimes with incredible ferocity) since approximately level 4. 10 (or more) levels later, your characters *should* have changed enough to be able to *finally* work as a well-oiled machine, both in combat and out.
So, EVERYONE, start making sure that the character you're playing is the character you want remembered. Talk to me if you don't see a way to make that happen, and I will gladly work with you to make it happen.
Lastly, don't let your character constrict you. I appreciate some of the in-depth roleplaying that goes on (almost all of it, really) but it's ok to take a step back and say, "Hey, he/she isn't real. I decide what he/she does, and I want it to end like this..."
Make your characters dynamic, make them seem "real" as much as is possible - but they are just parts of a story...and there's no sense making your part of the story something that you don't want it to be.
It's very important. You are heroes, regardless of what alignment you have on your sheet. Remember to act like it. Boromir may have been a punk, but he went out like a champ.
My two cents - my two huge, omniscient, reality-bending cents.
Laurel said:
Great points, Liz and Kat. I agree 111%Queen_Doppelpopolis said:
As a general note, this is the part of the story where everything/everyone is supposed to start to come together. This is where Cyclops and Wolverine put aside their differences to go fight Magneto, where the group finally settles into their "perfect" roles, and defeat evil with the strength of their bonds of loyalty, etc. and then ride off into the sunset, or whatever.
We're approaching the finale(s) of our grand epic, and so getting the little interpersonal squabbles resolved is very important. Your characters have all bitched and bickered at eachother (sometimes with incredible ferocity) since approximately level 4. 10 (or more) levels later, your characters *should* have changed enough to be able to *finally* work as a well-oiled machine, both in combat and out.
So, EVERYONE, start making sure that the character you're playing is the character you want remembered. Talk to me if you don't see a way to make that happen, and I will gladly work with you to make it happen.
Lastly, don't let your character constrict you. I appreciate some of the in-depth roleplaying that goes on (almost all of it, really) but it's ok to take a step back and say, "Hey, he/she isn't real. I decide what he/she does, and I want it to end like this..."
Make your characters dynamic, make them seem "real" as much as is possible - but they are just parts of a story...and there's no sense making your part of the story something that you don't want it to be.
It's very important. You are heroes, regardless of what alignment you have on your sheet. Remember to act like it. Boromir may have been a punk, but he went out like a champ.
My two cents - my two huge, omniscient, reality-bending cents.
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Archon
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Closer
The people of the Phoenix Kingdom will remember Archonus as a hero (hopefully), but the Circle/players will remember him as "that jerk that got the Queen pregnant then left her after she was paralized". I feel like no matter what i do Archon will be remembered as an jerk.
If kennon tells me that Archon knows something relevent about Dara then i'll have him say something.
It's no secret that Archon has been drifting away from everyone of late. The last two major decisions he has held the minority (or solitary) vote. Maybe he pushes himself away so that others can't. Maybe he wants a life he knows he can never have. Whatever he's whinning about it's keeping him distant from the group.
Maybe he wants to get closer but doesn't know how. When everything you do screws things up you stop doing things.
anyway, i'm ranting.
OOC i could use some suggestions on how to bring Archon closer to the circle.
hehe, anyway, peice out.
mik
The people of the Phoenix Kingdom will remember Archonus as a hero (hopefully), but the Circle/players will remember him as "that jerk that got the Queen pregnant then left her after she was paralized". I feel like no matter what i do Archon will be remembered as an jerk.
If kennon tells me that Archon knows something relevent about Dara then i'll have him say something.
It's no secret that Archon has been drifting away from everyone of late. The last two major decisions he has held the minority (or solitary) vote. Maybe he pushes himself away so that others can't. Maybe he wants a life he knows he can never have. Whatever he's whinning about it's keeping him distant from the group.
Maybe he wants to get closer but doesn't know how. When everything you do screws things up you stop doing things.
anyway, i'm ranting.
OOC i could use some suggestions on how to bring Archon closer to the circle.
hehe, anyway, peice out.
mik
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The_Universe
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Well, first of all, I do want to say that the message Mik is referencing here was not just to Mik - although it cam up in context of a conversation about Archon, the above advice/requests apply to the whole group. I'm not singling any body out, at least not intentionally.
Whatever Archon is whining about IS keeping his distant from the group...but remember (and this is important) that he is not real. He is a glorified race car, zooming around a more-complex monopoly board, trying to land on the proverbial free parking. You tell him where he goes, and if you don't like where he's headed (and I can't believe I'm saying this), METAGAME.
Tell the other players what they need to do, and what will resonate with your fictional character - you may have to compromise, as might they, but sullen statements about Archon is a jerk gets you no where.
He can and has done great things, but because he will not recognize them, he/we can't move on. OOC, know this: The Jaine thing is over. What happens now will happen in the background, at least until the kids are born, and this is as good as it will get. She's mad, you're mad - great. You can be mad. But "I'm mad about my 1 mistake" isn't a fun character to play, or even to watch played. The story as it has unfurled leaves NO ROOM for a return to even mild affection between Archonus Arendorr and Jaine Rhynn. It is over. Unbending. No chance.
She will end up with someone else, or she will die. If she lives she will be Queen, and the other guy will be King/Grand Duke. If she dies, the secret remains secret, and Archon's son becomes an infant King (or at least a prince).
Regardless, the girl child will be Archon's, to raise and protect (whether he tells her the truth is up to him). Affections aside, she thinks its necessary, and has no doubt that he could feel affection for the children, at least.
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Everybody makes mistakes in character. Xath, Arfin and L'Aurel bought the farm, Justice killed a starving ninja (and then a non-evil bounty hunter), and Archon was a little too 'easy' and ended up with kids on the way. Everyone but Archon has moved on from their mistakes, recognizing that, at least in part, they were things that happened, not things that they are.
My primary advice to Archon - forget that you dumped 'Eowyn,' deal with the consequences with the nobility and grace befitting your station, and remember that 'Arwyn' is standing right freakin' next to you.
The spot for the "dark, edgy Archon that seethes with generic rage, constantly striving not to fall to evil" is filled - was filled the moment you helped fix the little demon problem. He's got the goattee, and he wears the black hat. Put on the white hat. Be the good guy - we still need somebody to fill that role.
Even good guys make mistakes...but there's just no sense in making the mistakes the character.
Hope I'm making sense. Now is the time for redemption. Ask the questions, do the deeds, make it happen.
We'll still make fun (just like we do for the hungry ninja) but there's no reason to let fun turn into consumption.
While there's no escaping that that situation wasn't handled perfectly, I think that Mik the player has forgotten that while we all laughed when Archon told the Queen (and at *how* he told the Queen) we all cheeredas things became clear between Archon and Xath. This is often the way that romances work (especially in movies and stories), and wallowing in the bad parts only make it harder to celebrate the really good parts. Think of it like the Lord of the Rings (movies, not books). Sure, Aregorn turned down Eowyn, and that sucked...he was even kind of cold about it. But, he didn't concentrate on it. It sucked, and he was sorry, and he moved on to be reunited with the person he was supposed to be with. Hell - he's even a ranger!Archon said:
Have them ask specific questions, and I'll tell them what Archon might know. I don't know if you know anything relevant, yet...tell me what you want to know, and I'll tell you if I know it.
IC, no one has told Archon that if he disagrees, he's out, and they don't want him anymore. In fact, they have told him the exact opposite a number of times. The rest of the circle have gone to *enormous* IC efforts to bring Archon back closer with the rest of the group, only to be rebuffed or ignored. To go back to the Boromir example, he didn't just take his ball and go home after they decided that the Ring had to be destroyed. He stuck it out, even though he disagreed (at least until the call of the Ring proved too much for him). But even for that disagreement, he remained friends with his "fellowship," sharing and growing with them, even though he wanted something (several things, in fact) that he could never have.
Whatever Archon is whining about IS keeping his distant from the group...but remember (and this is important) that he is not real. He is a glorified race car, zooming around a more-complex monopoly board, trying to land on the proverbial free parking. You tell him where he goes, and if you don't like where he's headed (and I can't believe I'm saying this), METAGAME.
Tell the other players what they need to do, and what will resonate with your fictional character - you may have to compromise, as might they, but sullen statements about Archon is a jerk gets you no where.
Primarily, this is a statement that no one but Archon/Mik believes. If everything you do consists of the same two things (eg threaten and/or pout) one can hardly be surprised if one consistently recieves the same couple of responses. A very wise man once said "insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, expecting a different result." Archon is not (or need not be) insane.
He can and has done great things, but because he will not recognize them, he/we can't move on. OOC, know this: The Jaine thing is over. What happens now will happen in the background, at least until the kids are born, and this is as good as it will get. She's mad, you're mad - great. You can be mad. But "I'm mad about my 1 mistake" isn't a fun character to play, or even to watch played. The story as it has unfurled leaves NO ROOM for a return to even mild affection between Archonus Arendorr and Jaine Rhynn. It is over. Unbending. No chance.
She will end up with someone else, or she will die. If she lives she will be Queen, and the other guy will be King/Grand Duke. If she dies, the secret remains secret, and Archon's son becomes an infant King (or at least a prince).
Regardless, the girl child will be Archon's, to raise and protect (whether he tells her the truth is up to him). Affections aside, she thinks its necessary, and has no doubt that he could feel affection for the children, at least.
~~~~~~
Everybody makes mistakes in character. Xath, Arfin and L'Aurel bought the farm, Justice killed a starving ninja (and then a non-evil bounty hunter), and Archon was a little too 'easy' and ended up with kids on the way. Everyone but Archon has moved on from their mistakes, recognizing that, at least in part, they were things that happened, not things that they are.
My primary advice to Archon - forget that you dumped 'Eowyn,' deal with the consequences with the nobility and grace befitting your station, and remember that 'Arwyn' is standing right freakin' next to you.
The spot for the "dark, edgy Archon that seethes with generic rage, constantly striving not to fall to evil" is filled - was filled the moment you helped fix the little demon problem. He's got the goattee, and he wears the black hat. Put on the white hat. Be the good guy - we still need somebody to fill that role.
Even good guys make mistakes...but there's just no sense in making the mistakes the character.
Hope I'm making sense. Now is the time for redemption. Ask the questions, do the deeds, make it happen.
We'll still make fun (just like we do for the hungry ninja) but there's no reason to let fun turn into consumption.
Queen_Dopplepopolis
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Realistically, I think the fear of losing the Circle should be quite the push to pull closer.Archon said:The people of the Phoenix Kingdom will remember Archonus as a hero (hopefully), but the Circle/players will remember him as "that jerk that got the Queen pregnant then left her after she was paralized". I feel like no matter what i do Archon will be remembered as an jerk.
If kennon tells me that Archon knows something relevent about Dara then i'll have him say something.
It's no secret that Archon has been drifting away from everyone of late. The last two major decisions he has held the minority (or solitary) vote. Maybe he pushes himself away so that others can't. Maybe he wants a life he knows he can never have. Whatever he's whinning about it's keeping him distant from the group.
Maybe he wants to get closer but doesn't know how. When everything you do screws things up you stop doing things.
anyway, i'm ranting.
OOC i could use some suggestions on how to bring Archon closer to the circle.
hehe, anyway, peice out.
mik
There have been attempts, though. Justice requesting that Archonus give her away at the wedding being foremost in her mind - she probably feels very rejected at this point... she tells Archonus he is like a brother to her and he does not even trust her decision making capabilities? ... or the capabilities of the others that he has sworn an oath of Alliance to?
Archonus seems to pull away when things are getting good. But, right now, he has every reason to be pulling closer. The love of his life, friends that are willing to die for him, and teetering on the cusp of victory for our rebellion - just to name a few. There's also the fact that we have recently found his sister (or, she found us)... that ought to put at least a little smile on his face.
He may not agree with the means, but I don't think it's possible for him to deny that this is the most expediant and effective way to win the war. He can refuse to agree... but, I think that Kennon has made it abundantly clear that - if we are to win - this is the only option.
And, lastly, if you wouldn't mind - please send off an email to Kennon and ask if Archonus knows anything... as someone that spends a large amount of time talking about the game with him, I know that he does not just volunteer what your character knows. You need to ask. There is the potential of very important information within Archonus' head - he just needs to find it.
Whether or not that information is important once you get it is for you to decide. It could be complete worthless and not impact the quest at hand... but, I would guess that Dara Goldenblade was implanted into Archonus' past for a reason. Completely meta, but DMs don't do stuff like that for no reason.
Anyway - that's off my chest.
L'Aurel - any idea what spells you will prepare for this evenings festivities?
Xath - what spells do you have that can help us out vs. Undead.
WHO'S READY TO WATCH JUSTICE KICK SOME UNDEAD FANNY?!?!?!
- oh, that's me! I love being in my element!
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The_Universe
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No need to e-mail me (although you can). Post specific questions, and if Archon would know, I'll relay the information (though I might request that somebody roll something).Queen_Doppelpopolis said:
But don't be so sure you can penetrate this DM's dark and mysterious intentions! She is there for a reason...but *what* reason?but, I would guess that Dara Goldenblade was implanted into Archonus' past for a reason. Completely meta, but DMs don't do stuff like that for no reason.
ME! ME!
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Queen_Dopplepopolis
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Hehehe... I said fanny.
.. do the undead have fannys (fannies)?
.. do the undead have fannys (fannies)?
The_Universe
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Corporeal undead usually have fannies, while incorporeal and/or ethereal undead usually do not. Skeletons do not have fannies in the traditional sense.Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
The above information requires a Knowledge: Religion check, DC 12.
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