OotS 406


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Gez said:
Haiku are strange things
Many people post them, but
They're not haiku.

Your first line requires
"haiku" have two syllables,
but three for your last.

(I will not allow
as valid an accent with
two syllable "they're".)

- - -

I think that I shall
never see, a paladin
lovely as a tree.

- - -

Paladins, haiku
purity, and alignment:
recipe for war.

- - -

Speculation grows
dull as Miko's flirting. Let's
en-verse: smite topic!


Cheers, -- N
 

Just to note, Undetectable Alignment is on the Paladin spell list. If they're supposed to be so holier than thou, what's that doing there? Play on!
 

Grog said:
Killing goblins, orcs, and drow isn't murder. Those races attack humans/demi-humans all the time - they're a threat to the civilizations the paladin is sworn to protect.

So, it's okay to kill without provocation a goblinoid that's minding it's own business and doing nothing wrong just because he's a goblinoid, but it's evil to kill a human, elf or dwarf whom you are convinced is committing high treason that would jeopardize an entire city just because he's not?

Are you saying that race determines what is and isn't murder? :confused:

That's a slippery slope, there, pal. :\

It's almost a shame we can't mention politics on this board... Rich may be giving us a blatant object lesson concerning current events, here, but I'll leave it at that.
 

Pbartender said:
So, it's okay to kill without provocation a goblinoid that's minding it's own business and doing nothing wrong just because he's a goblinoid, but it's evil to kill a human, elf or dwarf whom you are convinced is committing high treason that would jeopardize an entire city just because he's not?

Are you saying that race determines what is and isn't murder? :confused:

That's a slippery slope, there, pal. :\

It's almost a shame we can't mention politics on this board... Rich may be giving us a blatant object lesson concerning current events, here, but I'll leave it at that.

No, he's saying that basically a state of low (or not) intensity war exists between goblin societies and human ones.
 

Pbartender said:
So, it's okay to kill without provocation a goblinoid that's minding it's own business and doing nothing wrong just because he's a goblinoid, but it's evil to kill a human, elf or dwarf whom you are convinced is committing high treason that would jeopardize an entire city just because he's not?

The second might be okay, but probably not. And the first is definitely not okay in my game. If a paladin just tried to kill a goblin for being a goblin IMC, he'd be in trouble. And not just because it might be a gninja.
 

Pbartender said:
So, it's okay to kill without provocation a goblinoid that's minding it's own business and doing nothing wrong just because he's a goblinoid, but it's evil to kill a human, elf or dwarf whom you are convinced is committing high treason that would jeopardize an entire city just because he's not?

Are you saying that race determines what is and isn't murder? :confused:

That's a slippery slope, there, pal. :\
Species, mister. As I believe is true for RL laws as well.
 


Pbartender said:
So, it's okay to kill without provocation a goblinoid that's minding it's own business and doing nothing wrong just because he's a goblinoid

In many games: yes. Evil races are evil for a reason... and that's the reason. So you can kill lots of them every session and never lose sleep. They exist to die at the end of a hero's sword.

Wait, let me put that in verse:

The goblins of spring
like weeds we must hack and slash
(but weeds with GP).



Pbartender said:
but it's evil to kill a human, elf or dwarf whom you are convinced is committing high treason that would jeopardize an entire city just because he's not?

How is he committing high treason and doing all these allegedly evil things while not detecting as evil? The judgement of the gods is frikkin' visible. Evil people detect as evil.

Killin' folks who don't detect as evil ... that's your slippery slope. Paladins get to do this at will, and it's for a good reason.

Wait, let me put that into verse:

To slay, or not to
slay? That is the question. Iff
it glows red, then yes.


Lying is a sin.
Can I kill a liar? Iff
it glows red, then yes.


Cheers, -- N
 


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