hammer of ulric
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Paizo have a website
But they are not fing using it!
But they are not fing using it!
Open e-mail to Johnny L wilson
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jaerdaph
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Re: Data Protection Act
That's absolutely ridiculous and makes no sense at all. Why should we have to adopt a law to make one of yours work? I suggest you contact your MP and request that the privacy law either be repealed or ammended so that it does work for you in situations like this.
Edit: I don't mean to sound harsh, because I do understand how frustrated you must be. I still hope the situation gets resolved and you get your magazines
hammer of ulric said:
That's absolutely ridiculous and makes no sense at all. Why should we have to adopt a law to make one of yours work? I suggest you contact your MP and request that the privacy law either be repealed or ammended so that it does work for you in situations like this.
Edit: I don't mean to sound harsh, because I do understand how frustrated you must be. I still hope the situation gets resolved and you get your magazines
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hammer of ulric
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?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I HAVE TO CAMPAIGN FOR LOWER CONSUMER PROTECTION IF I WANT TO GET WHAT I HAVE PAID FOR?
WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON?!
I HAVE TO CAMPAIGN FOR LOWER CONSUMER PROTECTION IF I WANT TO GET WHAT I HAVE PAID FOR?
WHAT PLANET ARE YOU ON?!
Merlin
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I have to agree wtih the hammer. I actually like the privacy protection we have here. It's always strange for me to see that people who claim to value freedom over all don't seem to care about their privacy....
But back to the topic. I think the main problem here is that nobody knows what's going on. So it would be nice to hear what the current situation is and how things will or might progress.
As TheAuldGrump siad, this thing could drag on for years. Do you think Eropean subscribers wait for years for their magazines? I have to order my magazines as backorders, which is much more expensive. If order each magazine separately, to get them roughly in time, I might end up paying about $14 per Dragon and $19 per Dungeon magazine.
Otherwise I'll get the magazines some months late. Furthermore, I won't get any 'subscrber only' stuff....
So, instead of comfortably getting my magazines each month, I know have to worry about them and order back issues.
How long do you think I will do that?
Years? I don't think so. So the end result will be that European subscribers, especially the ones not from english speaking countries, will stop buying and reading the magazines. That doesn't seem to be a big loss to Paizo and Wizards as it seems....
But back to the topic. I think the main problem here is that nobody knows what's going on. So it would be nice to hear what the current situation is and how things will or might progress.
As TheAuldGrump siad, this thing could drag on for years. Do you think Eropean subscribers wait for years for their magazines? I have to order my magazines as backorders, which is much more expensive. If order each magazine separately, to get them roughly in time, I might end up paying about $14 per Dragon and $19 per Dungeon magazine.
Otherwise I'll get the magazines some months late. Furthermore, I won't get any 'subscrber only' stuff....
So, instead of comfortably getting my magazines each month, I know have to worry about them and order back issues.
How long do you think I will do that?
Years? I don't think so. So the end result will be that European subscribers, especially the ones not from english speaking countries, will stop buying and reading the magazines. That doesn't seem to be a big loss to Paizo and Wizards as it seems....
Blacksad
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I've already mentioned this reason, and I would be glad if a publisher who use ads in dragon/dungeon could correct me.
Typically, the majority of the price of a magazine is covered by its ads, and perhaps announcers don't care about the European market, meaning that they pay the same price for ads with or without european customer, so basically the cost for Paizo to send us a mag, might be around $20 per issue (something like gaming frontier).
Typically, the majority of the price of a magazine is covered by its ads, and perhaps announcers don't care about the European market, meaning that they pay the same price for ads with or without european customer, so basically the cost for Paizo to send us a mag, might be around $20 per issue (something like gaming frontier).
TheAuldGrump
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Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
For any country to expect another country to follow their privacy/commercial laws is ridiculous, whether it is the U.S. as in the past, or the U.K. at present.
The only portion requiring amendment in this case is that pertaining to other countries, a majority of whom do not have the rather stringent privacy laws in place that the U.K. currently requires.
A good number of countries are unlikely in the extreme to change their privacy laws in order to comply.
I personally am in favor of increased privacy here in the U.S. where too many companies sell their mailing lists, among other things. Credit card companies have been known to sell lists of what merchandise has been purchased, etc..
We also lead the world in identity theft.
However at present the law is commercial friendly not consumer friendly. With the amount of lobbying pressure the commercial community can bring to bear I think it unlikely that you will see any serious tightening of privacy law anytime in the next few years.
The Auld Grump
hammer of ulric said:
For any country to expect another country to follow their privacy/commercial laws is ridiculous, whether it is the U.S. as in the past, or the U.K. at present.
The only portion requiring amendment in this case is that pertaining to other countries, a majority of whom do not have the rather stringent privacy laws in place that the U.K. currently requires.
A good number of countries are unlikely in the extreme to change their privacy laws in order to comply.
I personally am in favor of increased privacy here in the U.S. where too many companies sell their mailing lists, among other things. Credit card companies have been known to sell lists of what merchandise has been purchased, etc..
We also lead the world in identity theft.
However at present the law is commercial friendly not consumer friendly. With the amount of lobbying pressure the commercial community can bring to bear I think it unlikely that you will see any serious tightening of privacy law anytime in the next few years.
The Auld Grump
hammer of ulric
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DDK said:
If we just roll over and die, Paizo/Hasbro/whoever will have gotten away with it, like so many before.
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jaerdaph
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Re: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
A planet known as "reality".
Again, I humbly suggest you speak with your lawmakers about ammending an obviously flawed law so that situations like these where you actually need your personal information to be exchanged between companies so that you can continue to get services you paid for in a timely fashion don't happen. Today it's magazine luxury items for a fringe hobby - what happens next time when health care products or life-saving pharmacuticals, for example, are involved?
hammer of ulric said:
A planet known as "reality".
Again, I humbly suggest you speak with your lawmakers about ammending an obviously flawed law so that situations like these where you actually need your personal information to be exchanged between companies so that you can continue to get services you paid for in a timely fashion don't happen. Today it's magazine luxury items for a fringe hobby - what happens next time when health care products or life-saving pharmacuticals, for example, are involved?
hammer of ulric
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Data Protection Act
Changing the DPA is not quite that simple.
This legislation prevents the misuse of personal data.
Removing the aspect under discussion would render the entire act meaningless, as holders of personal data could then transfer it overseas, with it to their hearts content, and then bring it back.
So I'll keep the act as it is of you don't mind.
Changing the DPA is not quite that simple.
This legislation prevents the misuse of personal data.
Removing the aspect under discussion would render the entire act meaningless, as holders of personal data could then transfer it overseas,
with it to their hearts content, and then bring it back.So I'll keep the act as it is of you don't mind.
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