Order of the Stick 597 is up!

[WhatGravitas]

Wow, saved by stupidity!

"Power Source: Ignorance"

Indeed!

And oh: Rich is on a roll - OotS is really enjoyable again, right now.

Cheers, LT.

 

[ProfessorCirno]

While V is certainly acting evil, I'm not sure he's wrong.

The world is threatened. Spending months helping Hinjo and co doesn't seem to be helping them save it. They are wasting time.

Road to hell is paved in good intentions ;p

Yeah, V is definately throwing...er, itself, into evil

 

[Tiberius]

OK, for the V apologists: does threatening a fellow party member (even if said party member doesn't understand the threat) count as evil?

No; threatening party members carries no moral weight one way or another. It's not a nice thing to do, but niceties do tend to take a back seat to averting the end of the world.

In other words, go V!

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

I think the fact that the recent strips have provoked so much debate is a sure sign that the comic is back to it's best at the moment!

 

[Plane Sailing]

I'm sure I've seen that scenario played out in games - one player is heavily involved in the game, identifies with the NPCs, enjoys roleplaying etc - and the other just wants to get to the end of the module and blow stuff up

 

[Starbuck_II]

I'm sure I've seen that scenario played out in games - one player is heavily involved in the game, identifies with the NPCs, enjoys roleplaying etc - and the other just wants to get to the end of the module and blow stuff up

Was the second player evil or or just Choatic Neutral?

 

[Jürgen Hubert]

So, what's going to happen in three strips? Will he become a lich?

 

[Simm]

Was the second player evil or or just Choatic Neutral?

Neither of them would necessarily have to be evil or chaotic. In fact the one who want to get to the end is more likely to be lawful. Even V's current actions aren't evil for their motive, they're evil for their methadoligy. Simply put V puts a smaller output of effort for a smaller gain, saving the people of the Azure City, behind a larger output of effort for a larger gain, saving the world. He sees Roy as a necessary element of that second good and therefore more important than all of the survivors of the Azure City.

 

[BryonD]

I'm sure I've seen that scenario played out in games - one player is heavily involved in the game, identifies with the NPCs, enjoys roleplaying etc - and the other just wants to get to the end of the module and blow stuff up

That is a clever insight and spin on it.

 

[catsclaw227]

Neither of them would necessarily have to be evil or chaotic. In fact the one who want to get to the end is more likely to be lawful. Even V's current actions aren't evil for their motive, they're evil for their methadoligy. Simply put V puts a smaller output of effort for a smaller gain, saving the people of the Azure City, behind a larger output of effort for a larger gain, saving the world. He sees Roy as a necessary element of that second good and therefore more important than all of the survivors of the Azure City.

Just because V wants to get to the end, doesn't make him lawful, unless he is following the laws of the society by getting there.

Now I can wait for all the lame arguments that "V is following his own laws" is still considered lawful. That is how bad players like to justify doing whatever they want and then shoehorning it into an alignment that doesn't fit.

Do you know how we can tell V is going evil? The. Evil. Red. Eyes.

That is metagame for evil on the rise.