[OT-Rant] What is UP with Talon Comics??

[KB9JMQ]

Paladin, please let Derek (Squiggle D) know that the email I sent a few days ago (when he gets to it) for a price quote on a order can wait, while he gets caught up.
I have done all my d20 buying through Talon Comics and will continue to do so.
He has been timely, courteous and answers questions honestly. (Even when I inquired about a late order at the beginning of his problems).
Thanks

Darrin K. Lyon

 

[Kaptain_Kantrip]

I'm sorry, but the idea that "If it's 'business' I don't have to treat people with compassion or sympathy" is very offensive.

That's not what I said. I meant they should consider whether or not they stand to lose more than they will gain from sticking with their current business relationship with Talon Comics, and if they stand to lose, they should cut their losses and move on. Money doesn't understand compassion or sympathy. Money doesn't care who's sick or who's emotionally unfit to conduct business. If you want to make money (and retain the confidence of consumers), you have to make tough decisions and put the welfare of the business before the welfare of individual people. It may not be nice, but we don't exactly live in nice or forgiving world. If you want to succeed, you must be ruthless, mercenary and utterly dedicated, while presenting a helpful, friendly face to your customers. If you want to sell things out of your car or at flea markets, then you can ignore this and do whatever you like. Otherwise, you will probably fail. Sad but true. I'm not saying I like it this way, but it's the way it is.

Look at Dave Thomas who founded Wendy's Hamburgers, he looks like a nice guy in those commercials, but he was a tough (to put it mildly) corporate executive in reality. Of course, he's dead, but you know what I mean. And he did send money to those little orphan children.

 

[Wicht]

If you want to succeed, you must be ruthless, mercenary and utterly dedicated, while presenting a helpful, friendly face to your customers.

This is the way to succeed in some businesses perhaps but sounds like a terrible formula for life. Who wants to die wealthy and alone? (alone except for the other vultures standing by eager for you to die).

 

[Kaptain_Kantrip]

This is the way to succeed in some businesses perhaps but sounds like a terrible formula for life. Who wants to die wealthy and alone? (alone except for the other vultures standing by eager for you to die).

Hell, I agree with you 100%, I'm just telling you "the way it is".

It sucks, but you'll have a tough time succeeding otherwise, because so many other businessmen are out to get you in one way or another (competition, artificially inflating prices on goods you need to manufacture your stuff, etc.), and these guys subscribe to the theory of how to get ahead I outlined in my post, above.

I feel that the pursuit of money and material goods over personal happiness and relationships has ruined America and corrupted the American dream. Success should be measured by how many people like you and not by how many toys you have. But many people are sadly deluded into believing it is the other way around, and this causes all kinds of problems for the rest of us (Enron, Worldcom, etc.), as big businesses @#$% all over the rest of us and their @#$% trickles down to people who have nothing to do with them. It's a national tragedy. Of course, communism doesn't work either, so a happy medium must be found... somewhere...

 

[Tiefling]

That isn't an excuse to act that way.

 

[Furn_Darkside]

Hell, I agree with you 100%, I'm just telling you "the way it is".

It sucks, but you'll have a tough time succeeding otherwise, because so many other businessmen are out to get you in one way or another (competition, artificially inflating prices on goods you need to manufacture your stuff, etc.), and these guys subscribe to the theory of how to get ahead I outlined in my post, above.

First, it depends how you define success.

Second, my experience in corporate america has not proven that true. Most of the people I have met work as hard as possible to do as little work as possible- they are not interested in screwing people, they just don't want to rock the boat.

Third, there are many ways to play the "game". You don't have to play by the underhanded rules as other people- you just need to be aware of what they are up to and keep them in check.

FD

 

[Kaptain_Kantrip]

That isn't an excuse to act that way.

Who needs excuses anymore? There are many people who subscribe to this and see it as the natural order. It's not an excuse to them, it's become second nature. We don't start out like this, so it's the society we've created that is largely to blame. The media fuels it. Who's the most popular guy on TV ever? J.R. Ewing from "Dallas", that's who! What a role model, LOL, though I must confess he is fun to watch. But not to do business with!

 

[Kaptain_Kantrip]

First, it depends how you define success.

Second, my experience in corporate america has not proven that true. Most of the people I have met work as hard as possible to do as little work as possible- they are not interested in screwing people, they just don't want to rock the boat.

Third, there are many ways to play the "game". You don't have to play by the underhanded rules as other people- you just need to be aware of what they are up to and keep them in check.

FD

I'm not talking about the slackers or drones, I'm talking about the top level executives who fought and clawed their way to the top and who must constantly fight to stay there. And if you worked in a place without office politics, then tell me where, cause I need a job in a place like that!

 

[Furn_Darkside]

I'm not talking about the slackers or drones, I'm talking about the top level executives who fought and clawed their way to the top and who must constantly fight to stay there.

So few people reach that level that it can hardly be used as a fair standard of today's corporate environment.

And if you worked in a place without office politics, then tell me where, cause I need a job in a place like that!

Oh, there is tons of politics- just all spent to avoid work and to make it look like you are working hard.

I have no tolerance for office politics. Not because I find it offensive, but the people involved are such idiots- it is usually very boring.

FD

 

[Wicht]

We don't start out like this, so it's the society we've created that is largely to blame. The media fuels it.

That might be the society you move in. It is not mine. Most of the people I associate with on a day to day basis are not out to step on others, they are trying to raise good families and live good lives.

As am I. I have no illusions about dying rich, but I do intend to die surrounded by people who love me.