Erifnogard
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I was reading the news and saw that Peter Adkinson had bought back Primal Order. When did this happen and has anything been said about publishing it again?
PA bought back Primal Order?
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JoeGKushner
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This was news to me too. Guess that one also slipped under my radar. I hope that he does do something with it in D20 terms. The original was so much cooler than Deities & Demigods in terms of creating deities and the Pawns book boasted so many great creatures. I was hoping that they'd all go Epic when that book came out.
Hell, I'd love to see Primal Energy updated to 3rd ed rules officially, but I'll take what I can get.
Knights would be another great book to see updated. Rules for new Domains, some different style gods of death, magic, and war.
Hell, I'd love to see Primal Energy updated to 3rd ed rules officially, but I'll take what I can get.
Knights would be another great book to see updated. Rules for new Domains, some different style gods of death, magic, and war.
Kugar
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The Primal Order is cool.
I would spend the bucks for a 3e conversion. Heck, my demigod template is really just a conversion - works well.
I would like to see the Economic Order and the Military Order also. I think an Magic Order would be a good project also. TPO was a good book! The rules were consistant and it was fun to read. I still have my copy in its dragon skin cover. (Talk about going bac a little ways) Darn M:tG from taking Pete away from the Capsystem books, Darn it to heck!! (I'm also still a little bitter about the money I spent on cards
)
I would spend the bucks for a 3e conversion. Heck, my demigod template is really just a conversion - works well.
I would like to see the Economic Order and the Military Order also. I think an Magic Order would be a good project also. TPO was a good book! The rules were consistant and it was fun to read. I still have my copy in its dragon skin cover. (Talk about going bac a little ways) Darn M:tG from taking Pete away from the Capsystem books, Darn it to heck!! (I'm also still a little bitter about the money I spent on cards
)
JoeGKushner
Adventurer
Re: What is Primal Order?
It's not a game in and of itself but rather a CAPSYSTEM that fits many games. Originally it came with appendixes that converted it to many different systems like Warhammer, Palladium, AD&D, and a few others.
It showcased why gods were gods. Primal Power. In 3rd ed for example, I'd be willing to bet that the Divine part of some clerical spells that can't be defended against hails originally from Primal Order.
There were only a few books produced for the system, and some, like the Norse Pantheon, never came out.
Primal Order: Core book.
Knights: Three mini-pantheons. Each god has servants, followers, and other cool ideas.
Pawns: A godly level monstrous compednium. Great art and ideas by the late Nigel.
Chessboards: An interesting alternative to Manual of the Planes. Probably the book I've personally gotten the least use out of but I wasn't a big Planescape fan either.
I to was looking forward to the Military Order and the Economic Order. A lot of the ideas and goods here were great for any system but it's rare that the 'generic' books sell well. Hell, look at the City Books eh? If it ain't D&D, no one cares.
I'm hoping that when the material from Manual of the Planes and Deities & Demigods hits the SDR, or even the Gentlemen's agrement, that we'll see D20 writeups of these great books. Of course, some of this may be better covered under the Epic Level so that may add even more wait time.
shouit said:
It's not a game in and of itself but rather a CAPSYSTEM that fits many games. Originally it came with appendixes that converted it to many different systems like Warhammer, Palladium, AD&D, and a few others.
It showcased why gods were gods. Primal Power. In 3rd ed for example, I'd be willing to bet that the Divine part of some clerical spells that can't be defended against hails originally from Primal Order.
There were only a few books produced for the system, and some, like the Norse Pantheon, never came out.
Primal Order: Core book.
Knights: Three mini-pantheons. Each god has servants, followers, and other cool ideas.
Pawns: A godly level monstrous compednium. Great art and ideas by the late Nigel.
Chessboards: An interesting alternative to Manual of the Planes. Probably the book I've personally gotten the least use out of but I wasn't a big Planescape fan either.
I to was looking forward to the Military Order and the Economic Order. A lot of the ideas and goods here were great for any system but it's rare that the 'generic' books sell well. Hell, look at the City Books eh? If it ain't D&D, no one cares.
I'm hoping that when the material from Manual of the Planes and Deities & Demigods hits the SDR, or even the Gentlemen's agrement, that we'll see D20 writeups of these great books. Of course, some of this may be better covered under the Epic Level so that may add even more wait time.
Grazzt
Demon Lord
I remember all four of these books (and still own all four as well). I remember thinking when WotC first got D&D (and PA was still at the helm) that 3e DDG would be an update and expansion of the Primal Order.
The books were/are very cool and definitely capture what divine power and divine energy is all about.
The books were/are very cool and definitely capture what divine power and divine energy is all about.
BiggusGeekus
That's Latin for "cool"
TPO was very cool, but it wasn't just a case of not selling. WotC didn't realize they needed to ask a couple of the companies permission to use their mechanics when they came up with the capsystem. Ooops. Lawsuits were mentioned and WotC had to back off their RPG plans. They were in big trouble, but as it turns out, some guy had this card game that they were interested in....
JoeGKushner
Adventurer
BiggusGeekus said:
That's one version I've never heard before. While both TSR and Palladium made them pull the RPG notes, they still went onto another printing, which I have, that has extra stuff. They dropped Talislanta, the various Complete lines they were wroking on (anyone remember the lone Alchemist book that did come out), and their magazine in order to work exclusively on the Card Game, not because they were in big trouble. At least, that's the version I've heard from many sources.
BiggusGeekus
That's Latin for "cool"
JoeGKushner,
Fair enough.
I am by no means the first person WotC or any other company comes to when they want to talk about their corporate or legal woes so it is entirely likely that you have the right of it.
In any event, I wound up giving my copies of TP and Chessboards away. I feel stoopit for doing that.
Fair enough.
I am by no means the first person WotC or any other company comes to when they want to talk about their corporate or legal woes so it is entirely likely that you have the right of it.
In any event, I wound up giving my copies of TP and Chessboards away. I feel stoopit for doing that.
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