Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon

[Kaodi]

Oh God, I finally finished skimming through pages 14-26... I wonder how many more there will be tomorrow...

I'd like to apologize for what was a really insensitive comment back on page 14. However, in light of this, never assume that just because somehow is insensitive towards things that are rather abstract to their daily existence, that they are that way in person as well.

 

[Nightfall]

Reynard,

You speak so much truth about the fact Dungeon has become a "threat" to the WotC machine of adventures. That's why I'm pissed because I kept hoping to see another AP after Savage Tide. Now I'll stick with Pathfinder.

*has only one question: Where does one find a good assassin these days...*

Edena,

*pats "her" on the back* If it's any consolation you can join me in the Scarred Lands.

Kaodi,

I forgive you. Go with the mighty spirit of Banjo.

 

[Vigilance]

Not particularly.
When Dragon started back in the 70s, there were practically no rpers, since roleplaying games were just being invented. Yet the magazine flourished and grew anyways. It grew and flourished because people were interested in it, and so they bought it.
Yet in spite of your 5 million gamers, there isn't enough money left to sustain Dragon magazine ... apparently not enough to sustain it in any printed form.
Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, those train tracks are being torn up.

But the magazine is being sustained "in any form".

Just not a dead tree form.

If they are producing similar content online, the magazine is being sustained "in any form".

Again, the number of subscribers was a tiny % of the active player base and the magazine was being WELL RUN.

That says volumes about the magazine industry.

I think they have a good chance at reaching more players via the web.

 

[Nightfall]

Vigil,

Eh they might...but that again depends on access. Is the web truly an access for EVERYONE? No. I think we can safely say that because a) it keeps changing and b) not everyone can keep up with change.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Well when a magazine has a circulation of 50K, and you have an active player base of 5 million, it doesn't seem like a radical leap to think you could do better.

Consider, though, that they dropped the magazines in 2002 because they decided they didn't like the fact that they were doing as well- if not better- than their other products.

So why the switch in perspective? What is the new plan or product or viewpoint that is going to make the difference?

I'm open-minded enough to give whatever is coming down the pike a look see before rendering final judgment, as I suspect are many here, but a little show of faith on the part of WotC would be well considered, and I think just generally good marketing. It's not as if they've shown any hesitation to give tidbits and tantalizations about forthcoming products before; why all of a sudden?

(I suspect it is because things haven't gotten far beyond the theoretical stage myself, but I digress.)

But maybe, just maybe, those numbers are a sign that the magazine industry isn't a good one to be in, and it's time to try something else?

By the reports I've seen, by Lisa Stevens, Monte Cook, and others- that was never the case at all, not now, not then. The magazines were always doing well- much better than even anticipated. So it doesn't seem to be an applicable hypothetical.

 

[Nightfall]

Drew,

Everyone likes to speak in it (hypothetical) but no one actually gets it.

 

[Vigilance]

By the reports I've seen, by Lisa Stevens, Monte Cook, and others- that was never the case at all, not now, not then. The magazines were always doing well- much better than even anticipated. So it doesn't seem to be an applicable hypothetical.

50,000 out of 5 million is doing well?

*boggle*

 

[Nightfall]

The TV industry barely gets 50,000 viewers some times. I know for them that's good numbers.

 

[Shawn_Kehoe]

Shawn,

Misty is also apparently a Loth by nature. Who knew?

Well, just in case anyone ELSE is thinking of bringing their fancy-pants lawyering skills to bear on us, with all the "facts," "proof," and "logic" that entails...

REMEMBER THIS!

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=1884063

Shawn

 

[Vigilance]

The TV industry barely gets 50,000 viewers some times. I know for them that's good numbers.

Throws my hands up in the air.

Fine, Im convinced.

They should settle for one percent.