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Paragon Path names revealed by Jonathan Tweet!
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What worries me is just how "single class" these names sound. I really do not see Ranger ever taking "Battle Commander" or "Iron Vanguard" or really any other combination other then the one they have listed (except maybe fighter going into warlord's PP and vice versa)
Now if this is so and each class leads to its own Paragon Paths then how many Paragon Paths are there going to be to give characters meaningful choice ? 20 ? I am skeptical that they can suddenly drop that many distinct things onto the game at level 11 and have them all be balanced but I guess I may be mistaken.
Now if this is so and each class leads to its own Paragon Paths then how many Paragon Paths are there going to be to give characters meaningful choice ? 20 ? I am skeptical that they can suddenly drop that many distinct things onto the game at level 11 and have them all be balanced but I guess I may be mistaken.
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"Battle Archer"? Sounds like he's been demoted to the groups of grunts who fire volleys of arrows arching up through the sky in the general direction of his foes :-(
I would hope that by the time he was a paragon character he would be more like a sniper than a volley-er
I would hope that by the time he was a paragon character he would be more like a sniper than a volley-er
LightPhoenix
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bramadan said:
If I recall correctly, they've said that each paragon path is really only apt for a couple of classes. So IV might be apt for Fighters and Paladins, whereas BC might be more apt for Clerics and Warlords. You probably wouldn't, and may be prevented by the rules, from taking either class with Ranger.
As an aside, I'm not saying all Paths are by role. It just so happens these two I imagine are.
I actually like the names. I liked the names that I saw in 1st edition too (I only had the DL Adventures hardback and we used it with 2nd). We played a ton, and I always loved the extra name you would get each level, but we never used them in game. But I remember being a young guy and reading those names and wanting to get that level and that name. They grabbed my imagination. I could see young me getting excited over these names too. As for us older, jaded folks, well, what's D&D without a few houserules?
Spellstorm mage > this one is okay depending on actual class abilities
Iron vanguard > Iron Knight / Knight of the Shield / Shield Bearer
Battle Archer > Commando / Bowmaster / Fell Sniper
Battle Captain > Great General / Field Marshal
Astral Weapon > Hand of ____ / Knight Errant / Knight of the Order of ____ / Astral Warrior
Iron vanguard > Iron Knight / Knight of the Shield / Shield Bearer
Battle Archer > Commando / Bowmaster / Fell Sniper
Battle Captain > Great General / Field Marshal
Astral Weapon > Hand of ____ / Knight Errant / Knight of the Order of ____ / Astral Warrior
Carnivorous_Bean
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Much as I'm anticipating 4th edition, I don't like the naming conventions for these paragon paths.
I also have an intense dislike for the use of the word "warlord" for a class. A warlord is basically a regional military dictator, and I've never seen it applied to anyone who didn't have political power backed by force. And it's generally perjorative -- it basically means "tyrant." It's basically just as bad as naming the class "emperor." Yes, you can have a warlord who's a tactical leader. You can have an emperor who comes to the battlefield. But not every tactician is a warlord, an emperor, a king, a khan, or what have you. They should have stuck with "marshal."
As for the paragon path names, I would have preferred something along the lines of --
-- master of spells
-- deadly warrior
-- mighty archer
-- high tactician
-- holy champion
A bit understated, perhaps, but no doubt that these are powerful and important people. While "astral weapon" is just plain weird, and "battle archer" and "battle captain" sound like demotions. "Iron vanguard" sounds like a unit name -- "The Iron Vanguard of Foofadoofia" -- and "spellstorm mage" sounds like a weather wizard. Not a bad name, just not generic enough.
I also have an intense dislike for the use of the word "warlord" for a class. A warlord is basically a regional military dictator, and I've never seen it applied to anyone who didn't have political power backed by force. And it's generally perjorative -- it basically means "tyrant." It's basically just as bad as naming the class "emperor." Yes, you can have a warlord who's a tactical leader. You can have an emperor who comes to the battlefield. But not every tactician is a warlord, an emperor, a king, a khan, or what have you. They should have stuck with "marshal."
As for the paragon path names, I would have preferred something along the lines of --
-- master of spells
-- deadly warrior
-- mighty archer
-- high tactician
-- holy champion
A bit understated, perhaps, but no doubt that these are powerful and important people. While "astral weapon" is just plain weird, and "battle archer" and "battle captain" sound like demotions. "Iron vanguard" sounds like a unit name -- "The Iron Vanguard of Foofadoofia" -- and "spellstorm mage" sounds like a weather wizard. Not a bad name, just not generic enough.
