Passive Perception: including WIS-mod or not?

[NeoNick]

I'm designing a personal character sheet in Excel and come upon the question how passive perception is calculated?

Should Passive Perception include your WISDOM-modifier or not?

In other character-sheets I find it's not, but when I quickly check the PH I cannot find any such statement. PH just states on page 179 that you are assumed to take a 10. No clear info is found on Perception on page 186 either.

I guess the same question goes for Insight and in some rare cases Dungeoneering or Nature.

Help apreciated.

 

[firesnakearies]

Yes, absolutely.

ANY time you're using a skill, whether it's an active check or a passive one, the ability modifier linked to that skill is included. Basically, the Wisdom modifier is incorporated into the character's base skill modifier for Perception. (And Insight, etc.)

So a Perception check = 1d20 + 1/2 level + Wisdom modifier + any other bonuses (trained, racial, feat, item, power, and so on).

The passive Perception simply substitutes a flat '10' for the d20 roll, but uses all of the same modifiers.

All skills work like this.

 

[NeoNick]

Thanks!

I hoped it worked that way, but you never know with RAW.

 

[NeoNick]

Have a look at the official character sheet at the back of the PH, page 318!!

There it says Passive Perception is 10 + skill bonus. It's really easy to misinterpret the skill bonus to just include you +5 for training (without the WIS-modifier)! And I guess that's the reason a lot of the character sheets I've been looking at were calculating the Pass Perception incorrectly.