D&D (2024) Buffing Int, Wis, and Cha (Mostly Int and Cha)

[DEFCON 1]

The "boring" is when the same stats keep getting that 8 every single time. The frequency of 8 in Str, Int, and Cha feels like poor design to some of us, and making some targeted improvements may lead to more diverse character options.

Yeah, but why first-off are you bothering to look at other people's character sheets... and on top of that, a modifier only one or two points lower than a supposed "non-boring" stat array does not actually show up during gameplay as anything appreciably different. So it's nothing more than just arbitrarily "thinking" that an 8 in some stat all the time is some big issue. But in actual gameplay at the table it is pretty much meaningless.

Just stop worrying about other people's character sheets and instead watch players just play at the table. Cause then all the supposed issues just disappear.

 

[Micah Sweet]

But the point is that unless you roll in order, rolling doesn't affect which stats get dumped. The lowest scores still go to the same ones.

But the low rolls offer more variety than "8".

 

[CreamCloud0]

But the point is that unless you roll in order, rolling doesn't affect which stats get dumped. The lowest scores still go to the same ones.

and even then, if they then pick their class after they roll in order they're free to pick which class aligns the best with their naturally occuring deficiencies.

 

[Micah Sweet]

and even then, if they then pick their class after they roll in order they're free to pick which class aligns the best with their naturally occuring deficiencies.

Doesn't that make sense though? People do that in real life all the time.

 

[jmartkdr2]

Doesn't that make sense though? People do that in real life all the time.

Sure. It’s realistic, but people get upset when paladins don’t prioritize intelligence.

 

[DEFCON 1]

Sure. It’s realistic, but people get upset when paladins don’t prioritize intelligence.

And why is it people only get bored when other players make the same stats low all the time but not when they make them high? Every Barbarian has wicked high strength, every Cleric has wicked high Wisdom, every Monk has wicked high Dexterity... isn't that just as boring as seeing every Druid dump Charisma?

 

[Merlecory]

Yeah, but why first-off are you bothering to look at other people's character sheets... and on top of that, a modifier only one or two points lower than a supposed "non-boring" stat array does not actually show up during gameplay as anything appreciably different. So it's nothing more than just arbitrarily "thinking" that an 8 in some stat all the time is some big issue. But in actual gameplay at the table it is pretty much meaningless.

Just stop worrying about other people's character sheets and instead watch players just play at the table. Cause then all the supposed issues just disappear.

I was in a party of 5 that nearly had a tpk because of 2 intellect devourers. That might be more or less the worst case scenario for a low int party, but no one has anything better than a 10. It highest strength was a 13, iirc.

 

[ezo]

Every Barbarian has wicked high strength, every Cleric has wicked high Wisdom, every Monk has wicked high Dexterity... isn't that just as boring as seeing every Druid dump Charisma?

YES!!! It is insanely boring and unoriginal.

It is why I like the group I play in. New players, inexperienced DM, no one worried about min-maxing much. And few high scores "where people think they really matter".

 

[Xeviat]

Yeah, but why first-off are you bothering to look at other people's character sheets... and on top of that, a modifier only one or two points lower than a supposed "non-boring" stat array does not actually show up during gameplay as anything appreciably different. So it's nothing more than just arbitrarily "thinking" that an 8 in some stat all the time is some big issue. But in actual gameplay at the table it is pretty much meaningless.

I'm almost always the DM and I'm a designer, so I'm always thinking about ways to tweak the game.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

and even then, if they then pick their class after they roll in order they're free to pick which class aligns the best with their naturally occuring deficiencies.

Which can still at least create the occasional smart Paladin, or charismatic Fighter.

Main stat being good isn't a problem, it's the completely predictable everything else.