Paying the Pig vs. Goofing Off

What's an effective way to encourage more RP?

  • Make the players pay in real money (Paying the pig)

    Votes: 5 8.3%
  • Enforce an XP penalty.

    Votes: 6 10.0%
  • Other.

    Votes: 23 38.3%
  • Just let it go.

    Votes: 26 43.3%

Mistwell said:


What do you have against cell phones? Are you trying to say that its one thing to alienate your friends and family by playing your hobby once a week - but you dare not actually talk to them if they need to speak with you during the game!

Man, what a terrible policy! Without the cell phone, I would probably never be able to play the game again. Stuff happens, and you need to communicate with your family when it does!

Yeah, that's right. I also assumed he was talking about using the cellphone for a family emergency. How Dare you Sir!

Wait, I just thought of something. Maybe he was talking about pointless phonecalls from friends and girlfriends that could be called just "chatter".

Leave the number of the game's Land Line with your family if you live in constant terror that something might go wrong with them.
 
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I'm prepared to get lynched, but I'm with J47 on this one. Most phones now have vibrate functions, so at least turn it on vibrate. Also, it's a very rare case where someone's family or friends NEEDS to contact them every second of every day. That's what caller ID or voice mail is for. But like anything else, you've got to set the rules for your group by your group. If J47 doesn't want his player's cels on during a game, then so be it. Doesn't mean it needs to be that way for your game.
Although I do think it funny that normal people have forgotten that cel phones are there for your convience, not everyone else's.

By normal people, I mean those people who are not on call for work and/or have family with serious medical issues, etc.
 

Its like Singapore, on the surface it appears really bad, but when it comes down to it, it actually works.

Cell phones are disruptive. Do you go to the symphony, Opera, the Movies? They ask you to turn your cell phone and pagers off there too. Or how bout an airline flight. Come on, lots of us lived for quite some time without cell phones and got by without talkig to our mommies and our girlfriends and our wives (or our daddies, boyfriends, and husbands) quite well. There is a time and a place for everything. Chances are your loved ones will still be there when you are done.

What you do if you are afraid that somthing will happen that you will be powerless to stop but can arrive for comfort and support after the fact (i.e an evergency) is to give the number for the house phone. Tell your loved ones that if the house is burning down, or mommy slipped and cracked her head open that they are supposed to call this number and tell the nice DM that it is very important that they talk to you. Its not that hard.

Looking at what I have said above, I think its because I think cellphones make you weak. They mess up driving, they are intrusive, and disruptive by ther very nature.

Aaron.
 

Then theres always the "of course its an emergency I need to talk to him."

My reply to this is: "call back balling and in tears and tell me the house is burning down and I will let you talk to him."

Aaron.
 

Although I think that there is a time and place for everything (especially cels), I don't agree with giving out the home number where you're playing. I don't pay $50+ a month for my cel so that people have to call all over for me. But then again I don't answer my cel during a game unless Caller ID tells me that it's work. In which case I HAVE to answer it. If it is an emergency, most people will try calling twice in a row. If it's not, they'll leave voice mail. Check it during a break or something. If they don't leave voice mail, it must not have been important.
But as I said earlier, you and your group need to decide what works best.
 

I voted XP penalty, but after thinking about it, take nothing as OOC. If they say they do something jokingly(I moon the guard.), have them do just that. If they say something wierd, they will confuse NPCs, and disrupt any spells they are casting.
 

jester47 said:
Its like Singapore, on the surface it appears really bad, but when it comes down to it, it actually works.

Cell phones are disruptive. Do you go to the symphony, Opera, the Movies? They ask you to turn your cell phone and pagers off there too. Or how bout an airline flight. Come on, lots of us lived for quite some time without cell phones and got by without talkig to our mommies and our girlfriends and our wives (or our daddies, boyfriends, and husbands) quite well. There is a time and a place for everything. Chances are your loved ones will still be there when you are done.

What you do if you are afraid that somthing will happen that you will be powerless to stop but can arrive for comfort and support after the fact (i.e an evergency) is to give the number for the house phone. Tell your loved ones that if the house is burning down, or mommy slipped and cracked her head open that they are supposed to call this number and tell the nice DM that it is very important that they talk to you. Its not that hard.

Looking at what I have said above, I think its because I think cellphones make you weak. They mess up driving, they are intrusive, and disruptive by ther very nature.

Aaron.

See, you personally do not like cell phones, even outside a game. So your bias is obvious - and hence your credibility on the issue is zero.

Playing a game that goes on for many hours, and happens every week, and the only people you might interupt are your personal close friends, is totally different from a movie or opera setting. If you think its the same - it's time to take a break from the game. Because that is all it is - friends playing a game, and just for the fun of it.

Me, I'm an attorney. I need a cell phone on me, at all times. It allows me to communicate with my clients during emergencies (and yes, they are far too common in this line of work, and my advice over the phone at that moment is critical). It also allows me to maintain my social and familial relations better, during those extended times when personal contact is forced to be short. I used to HATE HATE HATE cell phones. Then I got one, and I suddenly knew why everyone seemed to love them. Life really did get better once I had a cell phone.

People said the same thing about radio. They said the same about television. And yes, in your own generation, people said the same thing about both computers and the internet. Imagine, how did people play D&D 1e without EnWorld?

People without new technology always find negative things to say about that new technology (myself included), until they start using that technology. Maybe it's the sour grapes theory, who knows. But it seems consistently so.

And I am sure some self-hater who owns a cell phone will come along quickly on this thread and try and justify why cell phones are evil despite his own use of one, and/or try to make it seem like their D&D time is somehow more sacred a time than other times when cellphone usage is permissable for them. That would also be typical (and in the 70's those same people would have said computer use was fine for at work, but nobody should ever have a need or a want to use one at home).

So bash away, my non-cell-phone-using friends. You too will be drawn to the dark side. And when you do, I'll send you a text message congratulations...
 

I think El Seso and Mr. Billy are articulating my thoughts better than me. However, my roomate (an avid cell phone user) and I have made threats in the movie theaters to people that did not turn off their phones and let them ring durring the movie. They are subtle but effective, along the lines of:

"Turn it off or WE will turn it off for you." (Say it in a drill sargent voice and they ussually hop to it. They can't see you and they dont like the idea of some ex-drill sargent beating the crap out of them.)

The guy from Fight Club is right, most people will do anything to avoid a fight.

Aaron.
 

When it comes down to it, cel phones are a distraction. I own one, and have for a while now. I love it, but when a phone rings, someone answers, the game stops. Everyone in my group has one, and someone always gets called during a game. Imagine the following:
"So after (insertcharacternamehere) yells for the dragon to not be a chicken(*&$ and show herself, you sit in silence for several minutes after the echoes die down. And then from the deepest depths of the black lagoon in front of you, you see a shadow form just below the surface. And then it breaks the surface. There she is, in all her darkness, all her glo...
(ring ring, ring ring)
(playernaswers the phone)
Unhuh. Right. Tomorrow I need to be at your place by 1:00? I can't be there then, I've got something else going on.
(tenminuteslater)
Bye Mom, I love you too. See you then
(endconversation)
So where were we???"

That couldn't have been left in voice mail!?!?!?!?!?!
 
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Mistwell said:
...Man, what a terrible policy! Without the cell phone, I would probably never be able to play the game again. Stuff happens, and you need to communicate with your family when it does!

Absolutely hilarious. Your original quote Mistwell (the one above) leads the reader to believe that your need for a cellphone has something to do with family emergencies.

[/b]Me, I'm an attorney. I need a cell phone on me, at all times. It allows me to communicate with my clients during emergencies (and yes, they are far too common in this line of work, and my advice over the phone at that moment is critical). It also allows me to maintain my social and familial relations better, during those extended times when personal contact is forced to be short.[/b]

But upon closer examination, you are an attorney who can't take any time away for recreation. Oh! And to "maintain social and familial relations better". Not exactly the "house on fire" type use you originally alluded to.

Actually, it seems more akin to the "chatter" I was referring to.

...I used to HATE HATE HATE cell phones. Then I got one, and I suddenly knew why everyone seemed to love them. Life really did get better once I had a cell phone.

Message recieved man. You like cellphone. Talk away. Talk away at your game. Talk away in a theatre. "Maintain Social relations"

It's your life. Enjoy:)
 
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