PE: Assassin Spoilers

[Herschel]

I giggle whenever I type Assassin hehe assass.

Why don't you grow up, Mister Poopenstain.

 

[Klaus]

Isn't that just what I was recently speculating in my 'ranger wild speculation' thread

Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!

 

[Aegeri]

As is pretty usual, the class got moved back to Friday.

This is why I know not to get excited about anything on the content calendar these days.

 

[Vael]

This month seems particularly bad in this respect. Between the delayed CB update and the push back of articles ... I'm starting to feel like the Charlie Brown to WOTC's Lucy holding the football.

 

[Dire Bare]

It's just an idea, I doubt this is the case at all but it could be one way they did it. Personally like many things in 4E, I don't think they will be particularly worried one way or another if people don't feel its effects are "martial" enough. It might even just be a "This stuff is based off the power of shadow, while most of their techniques are purely martial" or something.

The new Assassin is not a new class or a replacement for the original class . . . it's a new build, just like all the other Essential "classes" in Heroes of the Fallen Lands. So, the new Executioner build is Martial, but could still choose powers from the original Assassin builds, resulting in a character with both Martial and Shadow powers.

I think this is what Klaus meant.

 

[nookiemonster]

Power source doesn't matter to me, it has no mechanical meaning and even the fluff importance has gotten diluted. The early power sources - Martial, Divine, Arcane - made sense to me fluffwise, but then they introduce "primal" and "shadow" and what have you. Primal and shadow don't really seem all that distinct from divine and arcane respectively, to me.

I do like that the new Assassin is martial, makes more sense to me, like the old-school Thief subclass that was called the Assassin. Remember %chance to assassinate?

Edit: since this is the post-Essentials version, does that make it the "Essassin"?

 

[Klaus]

The new Assassin is not a new class or a replacement for the original class . . . it's a new build, just like all the other Essential "classes" in Heroes of the Fallen Lands. So, the new Executioner build is Martial, but could still choose powers from the original Assassin builds, resulting in a character with both Martial and Shadow powers.

I think this is what Klaus meant.

Yep, that's what I meant. Such an assassin would have Martial combat powers mixed in with some Shadow illusion powers or some such.

Not really different from a "fighter/magic-user", in that respect.

 

[Ryujin]

Yep, that's what I meant. Such an assassin would have Martial combat powers mixed in with some Shadow illusion powers or some such.

Not really different from a "fighter/magic-user", in that respect.

Or it could be flavoured as slight-of-hand, drug induced hallucination, or a number of other more mundane functions.

 

[Phaezen]

Yeah I am wondering as well. Perhaps the assassin has some shadow influence and hence can do some magical like things, despite being oestensibly a martial class? Perhaps wizards are going to destroy everyones mind by making it BOTH Martial and Shadow. I mean, heads will explode.

I am hoping for dual powersource myself, should open up some interesting design space for new classes.

 

[renau1g]

I don't give a damn about power sources myself, I just want it to not suck, and not be using barbarian weapons as their "assassin" weapons. I never understood that.