@ people complaining about fluff

[pawsplay]

(rant) It is really starting to bother me that people are throwing fits about "IMPOSED WORLD CHANGES". The only thing stopping you from playing a forgotten realms game which occurs before the spellplauge using 4e rules is you.

A lack of active interference hardly constitutes creative support, does it, now? 4e also won't stop me from using it to run Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but good luck.

 

[RigaMortus2]

You really shouldn't waste your time. Some people don't want solutions, they just want to complain. What would the internet be without complainers?

Kinda like the OP, no?

 

[RigaMortus2]

Saying "you can just change bad fluff" is like saying "you can house-rule bad rules." Sure, I can, but then what am I paying WotC for?

Exactly. What are you paying them for? If you don't like the fluff changes, and are unwilling to change it yourself or make house rules, then why pay them at all? You have 3 options:

(1) Buy the books, and play it the way WotC designed it/fluffified it.
(2) Buy the books, change what you don't like.
(3) Don't buy the books and/or completely make up your own stuff.

There is no other option. If you can't pick one of these, then there is no helping you (not "you" as in you Dausuu, but "you" as in anyone with a so-called fluff problem).

 

[pawsplay]

Kinda like the OP, no?

You have entered a 10' by 10' room. A small table stands against the wall. There is irony here. What do you wish to do?

 

[RigaMortus2]

You have entered a 10' by 10' room. A small table stands against the wall. There is irony here. What do you wish to do?

Attack the gazeebo?

 

[Wiman]

Thank you the gazeebo reference just made my day

Favorite miscomunication story ever.

 

[Noicus]

4e is about KISS rules and systems, so if you like the rules but not the fluff, throw the fluff out. How many pages are there of fluff for the realms? from all the editions, what's preventing you from using THAT (sorry I forgot that word) fluff? If you've been playing in the realms for a long time your realm isn't the cannon realm anymore, your players have changed the world, WOTC can't make you change it. (/rant)

That was the solution I offered, I don't have a problem with people debating about what we know about the system, what I was bemoaning was the fact that people lose their minds over things that don't matter. The realms you play are the realms you play, period, end of story. If you want all the old badass people to still be alive, they are. There won't be new developments which fit the old cannon, but 4E is just like every other edition, it's your game, play and enjoy the game you want.
so there is a 4th option, use the old stuff you already own, from what we've heard converting old adventures is going to be as easy as it has ever been

 

[Plane Sailing]

(rant)

Pretty much any thread which starts off as a rant is going to cause problems - it is almost designed to get up the nose of people who think differently and frankly doesn't do much to provoke informed debate.

So I'm closing this thread.

If you've got any questions, by all means email me.