Permanancy

[phillipjp]

Two questions:

* Can one cast of Permanancy affect multiple spells in effect? (Paying the xp cost for all spells, of course.)

* Does the spell to be made permanant have to actually be cast, or can it be put in place by, say, a potion?

The situation:

The rogue in our party has a potion of See Invisibility and a potion of Darkvision. He wants to drink both potions then cast Permanancy from a scroll (with a Use Device check). Will that work?

 

[AGGEMAM]

NO times a million.

 

[Ywain]

"The character casts the desired spell and then follows it with the permanency spell. "

"Spell" is singular. You would need a separate scroll for each spell made permanent.

As to potions... I probably wouldn't allow it. Potions are niether spell-completion nor spell-trigger items, so I don't think that they could be stretched to be considered "spells" in any definitive manner.

Your rogue is going to need four scrolls and four Use Magic Device checks to pull this off. Bonne chance.

 

[Xeriar]

Two questions:

* Can one cast of Permanancy affect multiple spells in effect? (Paying the xp cost for all spells, of course.)

The spell description refers to a single casting of a spell (in the singular form), followed immediately by a permenancy spell.

* Does the spell to be made permanant have to actually be cast, or can it be put in place by, say, a potion?

It states that 'You cast the desired spell and then follow it with a Permenancy spell.'

This suggests that it must be cast - the casting being the component, not the spell effect. However some spells are in the permenancy list that are not in the wizard/sorcerer list, but there are other ways to cast a spell.

The situation:

The rogue in our party has a potion of See Invisibility and a potion of Darkvision. He wants to drink both potions then cast Permanancy from a scroll (with a Use Device check). Will that work?

 

[AGGEMAM]

Well, the only thing I really have against it rulewise is potions are use-activated items and as such are not considered the same as casting a spell, as scroll are being spell completion items.

Other than that. It just rubs me the wrong way.

 

[phillipjp]

Thanks for the comments. This also didn't sit well with me either, I just couldn't put my finger on why.