Peter Jackson's influence on The Hobbit

[Brandigan]

Frankthedm brought this up but I thought it deserved it's own thread. I was wondering how much freedom the director will have with this project. And how much similar the end product will be to the Rings trilogy. I didn't mind PJ's version for the most part and I'd imagine The Hobbit to end up very similar. Which might be better for ticket sales, but not capturing the tone of JRR. The Hobbit, to me anyways, has more of a cartoonish feel.
What do you guys think the movie will be like?

 

[frankthedm]

del Toro's Work with Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy 2 fill me with hope of a darky magical Middle Earth ready to serve up dragon sized portions of Nightmare Fuel.

The Hobbit
Directed by
Guillermo del Toro
Produced by
Peter Jackson (executive)
Mark Ordesky

Del Toro felt the Wargs had to be changed because "the classical incarnation of the demonic wolf in Nordic mythology is not a hyena-shaped creature".<sup id="cite_ref-wardocs_19-1" class="reference">[20]</sup>

 

[Orius]

As long as we get a Beorn tearing the hell out of goblins at the end, I'll be happy.

 

[Remus Lupin]

It seems to me that if Jackson didn't want Del Toro to bring his own sensibility to the project, he could have gotten a lot of second tier directors to just do a knock off of his own version, so I imagine Del Toro will have a good deal of latitude, but at the same time, I don't want the visual style to be so jarringly different from Jackson's LotR that it feels like a different story, rather than a prelude to the main story.

 

[frankthedm]

It seems to me that if Jackson didn't want Del Toro to bring his own sensibility to the project, he could have gotten a lot of second tier directors to just do a knock off of his own version, so I imagine Del Toro will have a good deal of latitude, but at the same time, I don't want the visual style to be so jarringly different from Jackson's LotR that it feels like a different story, rather than a prelude to the main story.

Del toro has already said the second hobbit movie is going to be the transition from his style to PJ's style.

The first film will stand on its own, and the second will be a transition and fusion with Peter's world. I plan to change and expand the visuals from Peter's, and I know the world can be portrayed in a different way. Different is better for the first one. For the second, I have the responsibility of finding a slow progression and mimicking the style of Peter. —Del Toro on tonal consistency with Jackson's trilogy[26]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_films#cite_note-25http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_films#cite_note-25

 

[mmadsen]

I don't think of del Toro as a great fit for Tolkien, especially The Hobbit, but I'm pleased to see that he wants his wargs to be demonic wolves, not hyena-things.

Hmm... now that I think about it, I guess he is a good fit for Gollum, the giant spiders, and the scary wood elves.

 

[Banshee16]

I don't think of del Toro as a great fit for Tolkien, especially The Hobbit, but I'm pleased to see that he wants his wargs to be demonic wolves, not hyena-things.

Hmm... now that I think about it, I guess he is a good fit for Gollum, the giant spiders, and the scary wood elves.

I hadn't heard of the demonic wolves thing. Frankly, I never really thought worgs were supposed to be that weird. I thought they were like big, vicious, intelligent wolves.

My concern with Del Toro is that we're going to have wolves and orcs and stuff covered with eyeballs, or mouths growing out of their hands, or weird stuff like that. I really like some of what he did with Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth etc., but thematically, some of his ideas just seem a little too out there for Tolkien. The LotR always seemed somewhat more conservative, and less outlandish.

Banshee

 

[Umbran]

Del toro has already said the second hobbit movie is going to be the transition from his style to PJ's style.

Hm. If the first movie is going to contain the background on who Sauron is, touching on the mythic era covered in the Silmarillion, this could make a lot of sense.

 

[Darth Shoju]

My concern with Del Toro is that we're going to have wolves and orcs and stuff covered with eyeballs, or mouths growing out of their hands, or weird stuff like that. I really like some of what he did with Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth etc., but thematically, some of his ideas just seem a little too out there for Tolkien. The LotR always seemed somewhat more conservative, and less outlandish.

Banshee

I don't think we have to worry about that, personally. I'm sure he's more aware of what the story is about than that. After watching Pan's Labyrinth, the Hellboy movies and Blade II, I'm confident that Del Toro will handle the Hobbit appropriately. Then hopefully he'll be able to make Mountains of Madness.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Maybe Del Toro is inspired by the Far Realm? ^_^