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[JoeGKushner]

These two ideas don't go together.

My own Character Customization has such a class creation system (and I will update it 3.5 eventually). Sigil's Buy the Numbers throws out the class completely. What makes it better if WotC makes it?

Look 'em up on RPGNow.

It'll be in hardcover, full color format for 3.5?

 

[Arnwyn]

It'll be in hardcover, full color format for 3.5?

In print, available at my LGS so I can properly peruse it, and not have to read off a computer screen, away from the game table?

ZING!

 

[Nightfall]

Joe,

I'm not disagreeing there. I'm just stating that's how things are.

Jester,

Well like some people have pointed out, there is a small but possibly (I stress that last word, possibly) growing number of people that, with limited funds, would buy such a thing since it would eliminate the need for ALL the complete series.

Some times one needs to stand outside one-self to see that WotC doesn't ALWAYS think of you. Businesses, generally, only think of themselves. It's the way it works in the real world folks.

 

[Mokona]

Businesses, generally, only think of themselves. It's the way it works in the real world folks.

A business that only thinks of itself loses its customers. Those businesses don't last very long. Hasbro has been around for a long time...T$R on the other hand went out of business directly because they had no idea what their customers wanted.

 

[Kunimatyu]

Personally, given the amount of overpowered and/or crappy stuff in the Complete series, I'd love a PHBII that contained 4-6 of the new classes, 20 or so of the useful/nonbroken PrCs(ie. no Radiant Servant), the useful and nonbroken feats from the Complete series, coupled with useful advice for roleplaying a character, player tactics vs. monsters, and how to be a useful member of an adventuring party.

If one of the mechanics-oriented D&D guys(I'm thinking Mearls) went through the Complete series and pulled out/fixed the good stuff, I think WotC would have a real winner on their hands.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

A business that only thinks of itself loses its customers. Those businesses don't last very long. Hasbro has been around for a long time...T$R on the other hand went out of business directly because they had no idea what their customers wanted.

And customers who assume that every other customer is just like them have no idea, either.

All the people here who've bought every splatbook WotC has put out in the past five years -- of COURSE you're not going to buy a reprint book. But most buyers aren't like you -- I'd go so far as to say you're a minority on this board as well, where people are more hardcore than the average player to begin with.

Don't kid yourselves: There's a HUGE market for reprinting the good stuff from the splatbooks (heck, how many people bought Complete Warrior, which is mostly reprints?). And if they're smart, and leave the prestige class reprints out of it, that's one more book for them later on.

 

[trancejeremy]

The original Unearthed Arcana (for AD&D 1st Ed) was pretty much like a PHB 2. Sort of an add-on to the original PHB (though it also had some other stuff, like demi-human gods)

Of course, it mostly reprinted stuff from Dragon...

 

[Ranger REG]

I agree with Crothian, a point-buy class system like the 2Ed Player's Option series (but better) would be worth buying. In a limited sense, that's what Green Ronin did for Paladins/Holy Knights in The Book of the Righteous- my single favorite 3rd party D20 product to date.

Oh, gawd. Of all the 2nd edition product to emulate, Player's Option: Skills and Powers is by far the WURST I have ever seen.

It makes even the first d20 superhero rpg, The Foundation, look good.

To even develop PHB II on that concept, they're better off just flushing their budget down a toilet.

 

[Simplicity]

I don't want a point-buy class system... What I want is options on EXISTING classes.
Similar to the wizard specialist options in Unearthed Arcana... Do that for ALL the classes.
How about

1) a paladin who has the ability to ignore demon/devil DR rather than lay on hands.
2) a sorcerer who trades his/her familiar for a demon or dragon "mentor"
3) a bard who gains barbarian rage by smashing his guitar

Okay... maybe not the last one.

 

[jmucchiello]

It'll be in hardcover, full color format for 3.5?

I am planning more artwork, not color, and I am going to POD it, good enough?

In print, available at my LGS so I can properly peruse it, and not have to read off a computer screen, away from the game table?

ZING!

Zing? Zing? Something I said deserved zinging? Should I appreciate essentially being laughed at? Oh, sorry, ha ha, little pdf publisher needs to be humble. Look, I'm bowing obsequiously. No, I'm sorry I wasted your time talking about the subpar and obviously inferior solely due to format work I've done. I'll go crawl under a rock again.