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PHB2: Duskblade

Erekose13

Explorer
Yay for PHB2 being available now. How about allowing the Duskblade? He'd my favorite, but I've seen a lot of discussion about him being a bit over powered.
 

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Patlin

Explorer
Heh, beat me to it, have you? :)

I mentioned the Knight wasn't my personal cup of tea. The Duskblade, on the other hand, totally is. I love magically fuelled fighting types.

I wonder how this class measures up to the psychic warrior in actual play?

I'd be really tempted to give this one a try if it's passed.
 

stonegod

Spawn of Khyber/LEB Judge
I haven't seen these really in play all that much. PsiWar would be an appropriate comparison, but I think PsiWar comes off weaker by comparison.
 

Bront

The man with the probe
I think we should make sure that the Duskblade does not gain access to any spells that could cause problems, as I've heard some of the touch attack spells that are in the Complete series would be fairly broken in the hands of a Duskblade.

As I've not had a chance to use any PHBII stuff (as I don't have it, and all my home gaming has been kaput), I am not in a position to comment on this beyond voting once others have.
 

Rystil Arden

First Post
stonegod said:
I haven't seen these really in play all that much. PsiWar would be an appropriate comparison, but I think PsiWar comes off weaker by comparison.
Psiwar is a buff-up combatant, like a Cleric. Duskblade is more like a Rogue or maybe a Barbarian in that it specialises in hitting for a lot of damage.

@Bront--those spells in the SC don't say Duskblade on them, so the Duskblade can't learn any of them (it has a very specific list of choices)
 
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Erekose13

Explorer
I'm playing one on the boards but we haven't gotten into combat yet. As RA pointed out, like the rogue they can dish out a lot of damage in one hit. Their spell list is very specific and while I haven't looked much beyond 2nd level spells on the list nothing is jumping out as overpowered to me.
 

Bront

The man with the probe
Rystil Arden said:
@Bront--those spells in the SC don't say Duskblade on them, so the Duskblade can't learn any of them (it has a very specific list of choices)
I'm aware, we probably should just make that clear.
 

Rystil Arden

First Post
It should also be noted that a strict reading of the "Full Attack->Multispell" power indicates that it only affects each target of your full attack a single time. So attack a dragon four times, get one spell to zap it, but attack four werewolves once each and all of them get zapped.
 

EternalSword

First Post
Speaking as someone who plays a Duskblade in a home campaign, they are balanced with most spells outside of PHB and PHBII that are balanced in the hands of a decently built multiclass gish. I've been using lesser sonic orb for my projectile, and that hasn't been a problem, although we house-ruled SR back onto the orb spells. Do keep them away from save-or-dies, with the amount of slots they get and their BaB, anything like that is too strong. Personally, things outside of PHB I/II should probably have to be researched or otherwise acquired ingame. You might want to think carefully about sonic shield, though.
 

Rystil Arden

First Post
EternalSword said:
Speaking as someone who plays a Duskblade in a home campaign, they are balanced with most spells outside of PHB and PHBII that are balanced in the hands of a decently built multiclass gish. I've been using lesser sonic orb for my projectile, and that hasn't been a problem, although we house-ruled SR back onto the orb spells. Do keep them away from save-or-dies, with the amount of slots they get and their BaB, anything like that is too strong. Personally, things outside of PHB I/II should probably have to be researched or otherwise acquired ingame. You might want to think carefully about sonic shield, though.
Yeah, anything outside of the specific list given in the PHII would have to be proposed specifically to add to the Duskblade list (after being proposed and accepted normally) and is unlikely to get a 'yes' from me. The Duskblade has a restricted list of spells but better BAB and specials than an Eldritch Knight, and I think it should stay that way.
 

Someone

Adventurer
Would the PHBII spells in the duskblade list be automatically allowed? And would other spellcasters have access to them too, or only the duskblade?
 

stonegod

Spawn of Khyber/LEB Judge
I believe, strictly speaking, someone would have to propose them. Just as the scout's bonus feats in CompAdv where not automatically included.
 


Erekose13

Explorer
Should I add the list of spells to this proposal? There are 25 of them that are new to the PHB2, so it would add quite a bit to this proposal.
 

GwydapLlew

First Post
I DM for a high-stat Duskblade in my PnP game. While the mojo on the class looks incredibly strong on paper, in reality the limited nature of the Duskblade spells balance out quite nicely. They utilize a lot of Swift actions, which can be complicated in PbP games, but I have yet to see it truly become a monster... other than the swift True Strike Power Attack with Greatsword combo.
 

Patlin

Explorer
Erekose13 said:
Should I add the list of spells to this proposal? There are 25 of them that are new to the PHB2, so it would add quite a bit to this proposal.

I would think a seperate proposal thread for the spells would be better, in that it might be easier to read.
 

Erekose13

Explorer
alright, i'll work on that soon. i think i'll do 1 thread for 1-3 level spells, 4-6 seperately etc. might make it easier to comment on each spell.
 



Bront

The man with the probe
I'm not exactly sure why anyone would ever play a straight fighter with these around, but that's more an failing of the fighter class than anything else.

YES (Retracted)

I have to say, they did a good job of hiding the spell list.
 
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