PHB2 sold out!

[RefinedBean]

Just replying in kind, eh.

People have attacked your data and your arguments based on the data. Haven't seen any ad hominem attacks against you personally.

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At any rate, back to the original topic, are there any benchmarks that we can compare these numbers to? Growth of other systems vs. growth of D&D brand, etc.? Number of books sold per gaming group in 2009 vs. 2000?

I ask because there are more learned people than me on this board, and I'm exceptionally lazy.

 

[Obryn]

Just replying in kind, eh.

I don't see where anyone here is making ad hominem arguments against you. He certainly wasn't. He is doubting your data - as am I, for that matter.

Also, keep in mind that you're using your presumed experience on the matter as an argument in your favor. (As in, "I am a marketing executive. You aren't. Therefore I know what I'm doing, and you don't.") Calling your authority into question is not an ad hominem attack.

Basically, if you want your results to be taken seriously, saying "I know what I'm doing" isn't sufficient. If you do, indeed, know what you're doing, your methodology should be able to stand on its own.

-O

 

[darjr]

It tells us several highly likely things. One thing is it tells us that the expected ratio of 6 PH's to 1 DMG is likely a true expectation. I would like to know just how much bigger this distributor is in comparison to the others, and how many others there are, before I make any further "assumptions" that may upset people.

If anyone could find distribution numbers that go overseas, that would be hugely helpful as well.

Ouch. Just after I gave you xp for your previous comment... which I agree with.

Just for the record, I wasn't upset by your assumptions. I just thought that they weren't solid.

Anyway I like numbers showing up in this thread. Very nice. I'll have to see what I can find. If I can find anything.

 

[Treebore]

Ouch. Just after I gave you xp for your previous comment... which I agree with.

Just for the record, I wasn't upset by your assumptions. I just thought that they weren't solid.

Anyway I like numbers showing up in this thread. Very nice. I'll have to see what I can find. If I can find anything.

I was actually stating anyone in particular. I definitely had a screen name in mind, but it wasn't yours, heck may not even be anyone who posted in this particular thread. Several of these different threads have blurred together in my mind.

 

[LostSoul]

One thing is it tells us that the expected ratio of 6 PH's to 1 DMG is likely a true expectation.

It's actually closer to 2:1 when you add in the gift set numbers.

 

[evileeyore]

I read the rest of your post. It doesn't answer my question.

Keep reading and you'll understand, eventually.

What Kask is failing to say in a decent or easily understood manner is this:

The Guys In Charge may have taken the idea of selling out the first print rapidly into the projected numbers and based the size of the run on selling out rapidly. So it may very well have sold out as quickly as they desired and planned it to.

 

[smug]

What Kask is failing to say in a decent or easily understood manner is this:

The Guys In Charge may have taken the idea of selling out the first print rapidly into the projected numbers and based the size of the run on selling out rapidly. So it may very well have sold out as quickly as they desired and planned it to.

That would have the effect of reducing their per-book profit, though, wouldn't it? I mean, if they knew they could sell X books in short order -- say, a couple of months -- why would they print, say, 0.8X books?

 

[DracoSuave]

I've been under the impression that WotC/Hasbro would rather shelve the IP in question until something can be done with it.

What properties have they sold off?

/M

Five Ring Publishing comes to mind right away.
Ars Magica (Altho that one's been whored out to -everyone- at some point.)
Everway
Jyhad/V:TES (altho the IP for that was owned by WW, it's a Garfield Game)
Gamma World

Yes. They -do- sell off their IPs.

 

[guivre]

Five Ring Publishing comes to mind right away.
Ars Magica (Altho that one's been whored out to -everyone- at some point.)
Everway
Jyhad/V:TES (altho the IP for that was owned by WW, it's a Garfield Game)
Gamma World

Yes. They -do- sell off their IPs.

And they -do- keep properties sitting on the shelf as well.

 

[evileeyore]

That would have the effect of reducing their per-book profit, though, wouldn't it? I mean, if they knew they could sell X books in short order -- say, a couple of months -- why would they print, say, 0.8X books?

Create a "false impression" of the book sales doing exceedingly well? I don;t know.

It was just what I thought Kask was flailing at with the opaque hinting.