PHBII Classes Confirmed

[doctorhook]

To the OP: This is still speculation. Speculation with quite a bit of support, but "PHBII Classes Confirmed" is not accurate.

Actually, I think the only truly speculative part of it is whether or not this scoop is accurate. If it is, there'll soon be confirmation rolling in from others with access to the catalogue.

 

[Fifth Element]

Actually, I think the only truly speculative part of it is whether or not this scoop is accurate. If it is, there'll soon be confirmation rolling in from others with access to the catalogue.

No, the scoop is what classes are covered in Divine Power. The speculation is that this information confirms that the Character Generator screenshots reveal which classes are in PHBII. It might very well be the case, but we have no direct evidence, such as the catalogue listing which classes are in PHBII.

 

[(un)reason]

Any idea what the Warden and Avenger are... I mean at all? Are they based on some 3E stuff I don't know about or....?

Avengers were originaly the chaotic paladin equivilent from the BD&D companion set. Obviously, with alignment restrictions for classes removed, they'll have to differentiate it more than just making them paladin's obnoxious kid brothers. Still, I suppose it's more evidence that the designers like BECMI, and draw on it where possible.

There have been several kits and prestige classes which had warden/guardian as their general theme, so still not clear what they're shooting for there. My hope is that they'll bring back the nature bond/spellcasting stuff that was cut out from rangers in 4e.

 

[Rechan]

Yes, the Shaman is confirmed (infact confirmed as the Primal Leader).

Also, we've heard stuff from various podcasts (The tome, specifically) that there would be a Divine Controller, and he'd be doing more "Flame-Strikey" stuff. (Invoke and Evoke aren't that far off. And Invoking the name of something or other sounds fairly smitey/bringing down a god's wrath, etc).

We were told there would be 3 brand new classes, not done before. I'm pretty sure that's going to be the Warden/Avenger/Invoker. (Although I didn't think we've seen a Shaman before, aside from the spirit shaman...).

 

[doctorhook]

No, the scoop is what classes are covered in Divine Power. The speculation is that this information confirms that the Character Generator screenshots reveal which classes are in PHBII. It might very well be the case, but we have no direct evidence, such as the catalogue listing which classes are in PHBII.

Semantically speaking, you're correct, Fifth; this scoop doesn't directly confirm the PH2 classes. Indirectly, I think it does, but then, I suppose that doesn't really mean "confirmed", does it?

Okay, you're right. No hard feelings?

 

[doctorhook]

Yes, the Shaman is confirmed (infact confirmed as the Primal Leader).

Nope, Shaman was only confirmed as a Leader; the Primal part was just implied, IIRC. (Apparently I need to be more careful about how I use the word "confirmed".)

Also, we've heard stuff from various podcasts (The tome, specifically) that there would be a Divine Controller, and he'd be doing more "Flame-Strikey" stuff. (Invoke and Evoke aren't that far off. And Invoking the name of something or other sounds fairly smitey/bringing down a god's wrath, etc).

You're right. Don't forget to mention how "Invoker" is now confirmed to be a Divine class and "Evocations" are confirmed to be what Primal powers are called.

We were told there would be 3 brand new classes, not done before. I'm pretty sure that's going to be the Warden/Avenger/Invoker. (Although I didn't think we've seen a Shaman before, aside from the spirit shaman...).

I think that at this point, the distinction is pretty fine between "What we've seen before" and "What we haven't", especially given the terminology used across a glut of kits and Prestige Classes throughout the previous editions. Don't forget, they also initially said one of the class names would begin with a "T"; presumably this has been replaced with "A".

 

[Fifth Element]

Semantically speaking, you're correct, Fifth; this scoop doesn't directly confirm the PH2 classes. Indirectly, I think it does, but then, I suppose that doesn't really mean "confirmed", does it?

I agree that it provides more support for the previously-existing speculation as to what classes are in the PHBII. But when I came to the thread, I expected something that actually confirmed it, something from WotC itself, because the thread title claimed it was confirmed.

 

[Marshall]

I'm interested in seeing the Sorcerer, Shaman, Invoker, and Warlock classes...particularly, how they make each of them distinct and interesting. .

Great. As if 4e needed another WAR named class. Can we build an entire party of WARxxxx classes now?

 

[Protagonist]

Great. As if 4e needed another WAR named class. Can we build an entire party of WARxxxx classes now?

Warden - Defender (?)
Warlord - Leader
Warlock - Striker

We still need a controller.

 

[aurance]

Warden - Defender (?)
Warlord - Leader
Warlock - Striker

We still need a controller.

Warhol - Controller