Three_Haligonians
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Wolfwood2 said:Whenever I hear little DM-lesson fantasies like this, I have a fantasy of my own. I have a fantasy of being a player who just bulls ahead and lets the DM destroy my PC. And then afterwards, I'd ask him,
"But who really lost more here, oh DM? I can make a new character in an hour or so, and it will be fun and interesting to do that. You, on the other hand, have to deal with the disruption in your campaign and ending the story we were collectively telling on a sour note. You have to be the one to worry about fitting my new character in and abandoning all the plot threads from my old character. All because you refused to address an out of game problem, out of game. So good luck with that."
Ok, first of all, not everyone plays to "tell a collective story". Second of all, if this were about "punishing" the players for trying to break the system there doesn't need to be any big rigamarole... the DM can simply say a cinder block flies out of the sky and smacks the PC in the head - killing him instantly.
What is going on here, I believe, is that the OP is trying to figure out what the consequences of the PC's actions will be. When they do stuff, stuff happens back. Just like a group of PC's who decide to kill eveyone in the tavern because they.. I don't know.. can't get free rooms. City Guards come to arrest them and it escalates from there because actions have reactions.
As to the actual point, I agree with the idea that if the PCs attempt to strike a deal with the efreet - they can get their wish (although I agree Infiniti2000, they can only get a +1 out of the deal). If they decide to go down the extortion road, well then, that's when the reaction comes in.
If they really push for +3 or more. Have the Efreet create whatever tome or manual they need (from the DMG). Follow the rules for creating magic items under the wish spell entry and have the XP come out of the character. Chances are, they will drop a level or two which may fix your "but my PCs are too strong for an efreet to be a threat" problem.
Dr. Awkward said:"Oh, hey, someone's working against us. [Commune] it's those efreet that we made cast all those Wish spells. [Scry] [Teleport] [repeat] Problem solved, and we get XP. Yay!
See, this is the same thing as the tavern example from above. Eventually something -stronger- than the PCs is going to come looking for answers... or worse.
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