Hypersmurf
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the Jester said:
Foci aren't consumed, but that's a minor point
-Hyp.
Plane Shift Scrolls: Baked in Goodness or Bring Your Own Fork?
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Foci aren't consumed, but that's a minor point
-Hyp.
dcollins
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Your guys' analysis is very reasonable. However, as a practical matter, you'd have to agree that any such scroll in published modules to date (this or previous editions) is going to be printed as just "scroll of plane shift" with no specifier on it. Same as the current scrolls table.
Therefore, as a special case, I think I would rule that you still need the special tuning fork focus to get into a particular plane. Purely to interface with the fact that no one is specifying a particular plane when "scrolls of plane shift" get drawn up in adventures.
Therefore, as a special case, I think I would rule that you still need the special tuning fork focus to get into a particular plane. Purely to interface with the fact that no one is specifying a particular plane when "scrolls of plane shift" get drawn up in adventures.
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the Jester
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Hypersmurf said:Foci aren't consumed, but that's a minor point
-Hyp.
True, true...
So what do you think?
Hypersmurf
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the Jester said:
Um. I see two possibilities.
Either it can be determined as part of the Spellcraft/Identify/whatever...
... or you can't tell, and you just have to hope the scriber labelled it
-Hyp.
reiella
Explorer
Hypersmurf said:Um. I see two possibilities.
Either it can be determined as part of the Spellcraft/Identify/whatever...
... or you can't tell, and you just have to hope the scriber labelled it
-Hyp.
I'd say Knowledge (the Planes) myself, feels accurate to me, well perhaps not well enough to know how to tune a fork (which sounds like a Craft or possibly Profession thing to me), but they know what the fork should sound like to get them where they want to go.
Hmmm, but if the focus is preset by the scroll... Again I'd prolly go with an Knowledge (the Planes) after the successful spellcraft or whatever to ID the scroll. Although just including it as part of the ID process seems equally valid to me as I consider that the ID process for potions tells you what exactly you resist in that case.
Either case, I'd probably say that its discernable.
BogusMagus
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How about "Word of Recall" spell scroll?
Hello people,
Can I ask a slightly different, but related question?
How about "Word of Recall" spell scroll?
It doesn't need special Focus, but the destination must be predetermined when the spell is prepared.
By the way, what happens when you cast this spell spontaneously?
(i.e. Shaman class from Complete Divine.)
Hello people,
Can I ask a slightly different, but related question?
How about "Word of Recall" spell scroll?
It doesn't need special Focus, but the destination must be predetermined when the spell is prepared.
By the way, what happens when you cast this spell spontaneously?
(i.e. Shaman class from Complete Divine.)
I was thinking about this kind of thing the other day (though more in regards to spells that need something from the target as a material component). Currently, my thinking is that you can make these kinds of scrolls in two different versions:
1. Include the material component/focus when making the scroll. This means you'd be making a scroll of Plane Shift to Gehenna, or whatever.
2. Don't include he component. This means the user has to supply it, but on the other hand it means the user gets to make the decision. It also potentially saves on creation cost.
1. Include the material component/focus when making the scroll. This means you'd be making a scroll of Plane Shift to Gehenna, or whatever.
2. Don't include he component. This means the user has to supply it, but on the other hand it means the user gets to make the decision. It also potentially saves on creation cost.
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