Really? I'm pretty sure some of the armed camps of the 4e crowd or 3.x crowd with the edition wars/debate give them a strong run for their money, at least as I've seen around here the last year and a half.
Planescape, 4e, and the problem of worlds without history
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Really? I'm pretty sure some of the armed camps of the 4e crowd or 3.x crowd with the edition wars/debate give them a strong run for their money, at least as I've seen around here the last year and a half.
Drkfathr1
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I don't think I have seen them anywhere so far, but I did think the 4E Manual of the Planes still refers to the Nine Hells as the Nine Hells of Baator.
Desdichado
Hero
Huh? I was responding the first post. And I still say that that reads like an attempt to objectify your tastes, which is fundamentally quixotic thing to attempt.
Plus: I like the word quixotic, so thanks for giving me an excuse to use it again.
Hussar
Legend
Yes, because 4e fans every single time, in every single thread, nearly on every single page of those threads will feel the compulsive need to tell everyone who will listen that 4e planes suck and WOTC are a bunch of bastards for having junked the history built up over the last thirty years.
Yes, because 4e fans every single time, in every single thread, nearly on every single page of those threads will feel the compulsive need to tell everyone who will listen that 4e planes suck and WOTC are a bunch of bastards for having junked the history built up over the last thirty years.
Really? Any chance you or wizbang are actually going to provide links or proof, or is it just going to be this all the time?
Hussar
Legend
Oh come on. Do you really not see it? Gimme a break here. Hell, ON THIS PAGE, we've got it. Hell, in the quote you quoted, I was quoting exactly what I was talking about. If it's not how craptastic the "Limited Staircase" or whatever the phrase, is, it's how they've completely bajoogered demons stripping out all the meaning of the planes, yugoloths have been bastardized, angels are neutered, on and on and on.
We get it. Some of you don't like the 4e cosmology. Ok, message received. Can we move on please?
No, apparantly you DONT get it.
Wiz was asked, by a few few people, for links to his hard core planescape mafia type. He blew them off. As are you.
Are there folks that dont like what 4e cosmology? Sure. Are there folks here that loved planescape? Sure. Hell are there folks that love or hate pathfinders cosmology? Sure there too. I love planescape. I dislike both 4e and pathfinder cosmology. But I dont think I fall into that catagory of hard core planescape Wiz talked about. Nor do pretty much all the folks in this discussion, whether they liked planescape or not.
But that isnt the message. One asked another to, basically, back his accusations up. He blew them off. We get it, some of you are just more interested in hit and run in your opinions, then actually back them up. message received, you not interested in debate, just ranting.
Hussar
Legend
((Umbran, this is not meant as another salvo in the Edition Warz. If it is too close to the mark, please delete and smite me. Just a point I want to get out there.))
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