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[Master Chr Smith]

vetoed. please deleate thread. Thanks.

 

[Master Chr Smith]

not great for spacing but please excuse the formatting. thanks

 

[bloodtide]

So this is for a fighter type character with shields, but with a sprinkle of magic? That feels a bit vague for a class, it might be better to pick more of a focus beyond "defense".

You really want an ability every level. Spellcasters get spells each level...why don't martials? I know the publishers do it...but it is still wrong. You also want abilities to scale up

1st level is shield ally...I think this should be shield focus. Shield Ally would work better worded like "You may assign some or all of your armor class points to one ally inside your reach as an immediate action". I would just leave it up to your full AC, but you could limit it to half if you feel that is needed.

2nd level-Provoke? Feels like an odd magic ability that can be used at will. Maybe, for the low level ability just make this like the Taunt feat: (EX) will save vs Intimidation skill, If they fail, they must use their next action to move closer and attack you.

3rd level Shield Focus is fine, but I'd put it at 1st.

4th level is Rooks Defense, another SU and teleport? Maybe just a bonus to move, not teleport.

5th level is a dead spot. I'd plug in a shield feat here. Shield Specialization works.

6th level is the dual shield feat, and this might be a bit early. Maybe another feat? Or some shield stuff from the knight class?

7th level dead again. This could be make focus +2 and maybe Bulwark of Defense (Ex): When you reach 7th level, an opponent that begins its turn in your threatened area treats all the squares that you threaten as difficult terrain. Your strict vigilance and active defensive maneuvers force your opponents to move with care. Or the spell Shield Other.

8th level Rook is fine here, but maybe make it once a day per Chr bonus.

9th level Provoke....effecting immune creatures is a bad idea. And it's not like "provoke" is a huge part of the class. But with lower level mundane, put the SP magic one here.

10th level is stout guardian? This does not really fit. A good shield user(should) is not going to get hit all that much. Maybe Wrathful Healing: Whatever damage is done, you heal half that amount. SP once a day.

11th level provoking aura? Would you even want this? Though maybe missle attraction?

12th dual tower shield is fine

13 th dead level Fortification? Ghost Touch?
14th sheilding aura, maybe just more a bit like advanced shield other?
15th Some abjuration like anti magic or wall of force fits here
16th-20th are just about empty

Once you get past 12th level or so, you really want to put the magic abilities here. There are a TON of them to add. Put some damage resistance or energy absorption(and space them out every three levels).

Animate shields

Tower shield: Warriors Tower (like mages mansion)

Mettle: You can resist magical and unusual attacks with great willpower or fortitude. If you make a successful Will or Fortitude save against an attack that normally would have a lesser effect on a successful save (such as any spell with a saving throw entry of Will half or Fortitude partial), you instead completely negate the effect. An unconscious or sleeping character does not gain the benefit of mettle. Really fits this class

And...well, the Captain America throwing shields.....

 

[Master Chr Smith]

Thanks for the suggestions. As for the attack abilities I want to let those be player options with the character level feats as this is suposed to be a Tank, draw the attacks and survive no matter what. I thought Taunt was a skill ability....aaaand of course forgot to add bluff on the skills list, will have to look into that but can it work against groups? and I was thinking the energy thing would be coverd by energy resistance on the shields but putting some energy/magic resistance might not be a bad idea. I dont want this more powerfull than a monk, closer to that of a fighter (which is the weakest class of them all next to soulknife)

 

[Dioltach]

Some of the features seem better suited to a prestige class than a base class, I think.

 

[haakon1]

FYI in Pathfinder: Kingmaker one of the main NPC’s is big into her shield.

Might be something relevant to you, I dunno. I didn’t read beyond using two shields, which seems odd to me.

Also, I have a player in 3.5e with a hoplite (ancient Greek warrior) set of skills from Net Book of Feats. Spear and Shield to use a long spear two handed with a heavy shield, and Rank Fighting. The history book “Warfare in the Ancient World” - specifically its photos of Ancient Greek amphora showing these techniques - convinced me to allow it.

 

[Master Chr Smith]

@haakon1 unfortunatly I dont have any pathfinder materials since I've always done D&D from AD&D - 3.5 but the 3rd party supliments do have good materials. I totaly forgot about those and will have to scavage through those materials.

 

[haakon1]

The NPC was called Valerie. She is a “Tower Shield Specialist“ which is a version of Fighter. PF1 rules are freely available online.

Tower Shield Specialist – d20PFSRD

www.d20pfsrd.com

 

[Master Chr Smith]

very nice. good ideas. Didn't know about the srd.... which I should have since I use the D&D srd all the time lol

 

[Master Chr Smith]

Updated with some of the sugestions. Removed the healing, it really was unnessesary, added growing movement bonuses, and other defence based abilities. I still dont want to put in Fighting abilities, the player should use level feats for that if they want, this is suposed to be purely support. I also dont want energy resistance as a class feature, that would come with upgrading gear