Point Blank Shot and Ray Spells
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kreynolds said:
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Coredump said:
It's not a spell, it's a spellnote.
It's form Monte Cook's Alternate Bard (MCAB). To sum it up quickly, MCAB don't get spells to cast, but spellsongs. Spellsongs are divided in 3 levels, Spellnote (roughly equivalent to level 0-1 spells), that take a MEA to cast; Spellchords (somewhat like level 2-3-4 spells) that take a SA to cast, and Spellmelodies (level 5 and 6 spells) that take a FRA to cast. They always have a V component, and IIRC (it's been a long time since last I read that) never have a M component.
To answer Mistwell's question... Yes (provided you need a MTA or RTA to deal damage).
Kreynolds and Christian: D'oh! I was wondering why you made this error, and I my answer -- it's just because I was wrong on this one.
Bah, nevertheless, my comment was still insightful, since there are spells for which that would be ruled this way (like Enervation, if I'm not mistaken this time).
Mistwell
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Yes, Sonic Dart is on Page 33 of the Book of Eldritch Might II. Right after Songstrike, and right before Sonic Stab.
As for it being munchkin-like, it isn't. You would have to read the Alternate Bard to really understand that. Suffice it to say that it is, in fact, an MEA to cast a spellnote like Sonic Dart, and you could cast two in one round (or three, if hasted).
So I could use point blank shot with a Sonic Dart? I could use Improved Critical with it? Precise shot?
As for it being munchkin-like, it isn't. You would have to read the Alternate Bard to really understand that. Suffice it to say that it is, in fact, an MEA to cast a spellnote like Sonic Dart, and you could cast two in one round (or three, if hasted).
So I could use point blank shot with a Sonic Dart? I could use Improved Critical with it? Precise shot?
Quidam
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Aster could have told you
Mitswell, old bean, once again you could have turned to your party wizard- the one who often casts ray spells and has Point Blank Shot. Yes, yes, yes. You can even take weapon specialization, ray, IIRC.
Not sure about Improved Crit, though- critting with a weapon isn't the same as critting with a spell. You're talking about a LOT of dice you double with spells...
Mitswell, old bean, once again you could have turned to your party wizard- the one who often casts ray spells and has Point Blank Shot. Yes, yes, yes. You can even take weapon specialization, ray, IIRC.
Not sure about Improved Crit, though- critting with a weapon isn't the same as critting with a spell. You're talking about a LOT of dice you double with spells...
Re: Re: Point Blank Shot and Ray Spells
There's another way to look at it; it does an extra HIT POINT of damage.
If a Rogue/Wizard were to use Ray of Enfeeblement, and qualify for sneak attack damage, they would get -hitpoint- damage added to the strength damage.
Thus, as a GM, if the player remembered to remind me, yes, I'd let a PBShot + Ray/Enfeeble to give a 1hp damage bonus. Negligible, but at least consistent with how ROE interacts with sneak attack.
kreynolds said:
There's another way to look at it; it does an extra HIT POINT of damage.
If a Rogue/Wizard were to use Ray of Enfeeblement, and qualify for sneak attack damage, they would get -hitpoint- damage added to the strength damage.
Thus, as a GM, if the player remembered to remind me, yes, I'd let a PBShot + Ray/Enfeeble to give a 1hp damage bonus. Negligible, but at least consistent with how ROE interacts with sneak attack.
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