D&D General Poll: Have You Lost a Character to Ghouls.

Have You Lost a Character to Ghouls.

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 30.5%
  • No

    Votes: 33 40.2%
  • Yes, but I got better

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • No, but a ghoul killed a character while I was DMing.

    Votes: 22 26.8%


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Wiseblood

Adventurer
Not my character but a Cleric/Barbarian named Brock was killed by ghouls. After that I carried Brock’s magical axe naming it Brock’s Last Stand. Until it was destroyed in a fight with a remorhaz.
His bad luck didn’t end with his death.
 

toucanbuzz

No rule is inviolate
Not only is it logical, it’s the kinder option. Maybe not for the PC they eat, but if you do have your ghouls ignore paralyzed PCs in favor of attacking active ones, a TPK becomes significantly more likely. I speak from experience.

Good point, though I'm very sure my players weren't praising my generous nature at that point....Still, it made for a better game. If my ghouls had acted "un-ghoul-like," my players likely would've cried foul. No threat of death = no thrill. And ghouls, despite a DC10 save, can provide that thrill. In my game, a failed death save + ghoul auto-crit (2 failed death saves) = quick death.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
It's not only how paralysis changed & coup de gras got removed but also the difference of -5v rs
-anything but maxhp+1 then fail 3 death saves before someone does healing word or something swung the dial over to supermanesque leels of durability.
I don’t mind the degree of PC durability in 5e, personally. What does bother me a little bit is the fact that, unless monsters attack downed enemies, the players can casually wait for their ally to fail two death saves and then pop them up with a healing word. A downed ally should be a state of emergency, rather than “it’s cool guys, It’ll take a couple turns before I’m in serious danger.” One way to resolve this is of course to have monsters attack downed characters. Another is to roll death saves behind the screen and keep the total secret, though this requires a lot of trust from the players.
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
Ghouls are one of the classic freakishly scary low level monsters. If you haven't been paralyzed by a ghoul and torn apart by a feasting pack, are you really playing D&D?

I mean, it's in the example of play, for crying out loud!

Aside from intraparty conflict deaths does any one single cause of death come even close? Ghouls are like the soldier ants of D&D.
Over the long term in our games the greatest cause of character death is "own party", which along with accidental or intentional PvP also includes self-inflicted deaths e.g. dying via getting caught in the fireball you just cast.

After that it's "other adventurers", a catch-all including enemy parties, levelled BBEGs e.g. the stereotypical wizard-in-the-tower, pirates, bandits, assassinations, and so forth.

Then come Giants, then Dragons, then traps, then Demons; with a large drop-off between each.

Ghouls-Ghasts are a surprisingly long way down the list.
 

tetrasodium

Legend
Supporter
I don’t mind the degree of PC durability in 5e, personally. What does bother me a little bit is the fact that, unless monsters attack downed enemies, the players can casually wait for their ally to fail two death saves and then pop them up with a healing word. A downed ally should be a state of emergency, rather than “it’s cool guys, It’ll take a couple turns before I’m in serious danger.” One way to resolve this is of course to have monsters attack downed characters. Another is to roll death saves behind the screen and keep the total secret, though this requires a lot of trust from the players.
Yea even being within one or two hits of zero used to be scary because of how dangerous -5 is, but in 5e it's like deciding if you really need to heal/rez Leroy any time soon in a 20 person (mmo)raid after he did something stupid while simultaniously having zero stress over the fact that he did something stupid
-.
 

Celebrim

Legend
Leading causes of death in D&D:

1) Ghouls
2) Intraparty violence
3) Becoming separated from the party
4) Running into traps while fleeing from ghouls when separated from the party
5) Forgetting to kite oozes
6) Hold Person
7) Fireball
8) Pushing the Big Red Button
9) Random monsters no player in the group recognizes that wouldn't even be dangerous if the party didn't panic.
10) BBEG's, dragons, and other epic encounters.
 

Ancalagon

Dusty Dragon
I can't recall, but I do know one of the most harrowing gaming session was a long running battle against ghouls. Incredibly tense, and we came close to disaster more than once.
 

Leading causes of death in D&D:

1) Ghouls
2) Intraparty violence
3) Becoming separated from the party
4) Running into traps while fleeing from ghouls when separated from the party
5) Forgetting to kite oozes
6) Hold Person
7) Fireball
8) Pushing the Big Red Button
9) Random monsters no player in the group recognizes that wouldn't even be dangerous if the party didn't panic.
10) BBEG's, dragons, and other epic encounters.
Great Post!
But you forgot.
11) Party destroyed by a dominated PC...
And the famous #12
Just one more room boys...
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Do ghasts count?
Yeah...but that’s more of a vampire shtick.
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Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Aleena, NOOOOO!

There’s got to be a thousand ways to die an ignominious death in D&D ...

  • Strength drained by Shadows (”low-level“ monsters hit only by magic!)
  • Pecked to stone by scary magic roosters (cockatrice)
  • Putting your ear to a door to listen what’s beyond (ear seekers)
  • Opening a chest (mimics!)
  • Forgetting to use your mirror around corners (basilisks)
  • Helping imprisoned maidens (Medusa’s)
  • Find the source of singing in the dungeon (Harpies)
  • Not noticing the algae growing on the ceiling (green slime)
  • Poking the dead body (Russet mold)
  • Looting the dead body (rot grubs)
  • Looking at the dead body (bodak)
  • Not noticing the squirming dead body (spawn of Kyuss)
  • Thinking those were just bats (strirges)
  • And most of all, stepping in the dungeon (trapper above, lurker below, piercers and pit traps)
PCS WHO DIED
(Jim Carroll "People Who Died")

Teddy getting drunk in a dungeon crawl
Fell in a pit full of Green Slime
Cathy was out scouting when she pulled the plug
Found 26 orcs raging out of their minds
Bobby got lycanthropy, bit by a rat
He took a silver bolt when he died
They were PCs of mine

Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
They were all my friends, and they died

G-berg and Georgie went to harlots so rotten
They died of diseases that left them blood sodden
Sly in Darkenwood took an arrow in the head
Bobby mixed his potions on the night that he was wed
They were two PCs of mine
Two more friends that died

Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
They were all my friends, and they died

Mary took a dry dive from a castle wall
Bobby was ambushed by a wight in the tombs
Judy jumped in front of a Floating Brain
Eddie got et jumpin' past a cave fisher
And Eddie, I miss you more than all the others
And I salute you brother

Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
They were all my friends, and they died

Herbie blew Tony from the starship lock
Tony thought his rage was just some crock
But Herbie sure gave Tony a real big shock
"Hey," Herbie said, "Tony, can you fly?"
But Tony couldn't fly, Tony died

Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
They were all my friends, and they died

Brian got busted on a smuggling rap
He beat the rap by rattin' out assassins
He said, "Hey, I know it's dangerous, but is sure beats prison."
But the next day he got offed by the same assassins

Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
Those are PCs who died, died
They were all my friends, and they died

(Yes, I changed Eddie’s gender for the filk- not really room to explain how “Eddie” was a girl.)
 
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Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Over the long term in our games the greatest cause of character death is "own party", which along with accidental or intentional PvP also includes self-inflicted deaths e.g. dying via getting caught in the fireball you just cast.

That’s a big category for my longest-lived gaming group, too. Fireballs also being a common common denominator.
 





Coroc

Hero
No. Lost an ad&d cleric to a single kobold once though, but we don't talk about that...
ROFL

You mean the same as with the one who got killed by a giant rat and the one who fell prey to the stirge, not to mention the one who succumbed to the house cat?

We never are allowed to talk about them this is unfair ...

:p
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
I remember when a fire ball would fill its whole 33 500 cubic feet of space. Very often, the corridors were filled with fire, to the dismay of the young (now dead) wizard.

Or when that damned lightning bolt would hit rock and reflected back at the caster with full force...
And I will never in my life have these spells work any other way but this! :)

Magic. High risk, high reward.
 

Shiroiken

Legend
I've lost several characters to ghouls. Mostly in prior editions, but my first 5E paladin got cut off from the party and killed by a trio of ghouls. I've also almost has a TPK when everyone but the elf was paralyzed.
 


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