Polymorph Other - Broken? Suggestions?

[Scupper]

I know this is probably a stupid question, but is Polymorph Other completely broken (way too powerful)?

If not, why not?

If so, how do you deal with it?


Thanks in advance. I'm too rushed to do a lot of research on this, and I apologize for that.

 

[IceBear]

Getting tired of these "broken" threads.

I'm sure you'll get a lot of people telling you that they agree it's broken.

IceBear

 

[Forrester]

No one is forcing you to post here, Icy. Go attack some Fire Giants with sneak-attack rays of frost . . .

As far as your question is concerned -- yes, of course it's broken. Any spell that can permanently give you huge bonuses to natural armor, a bonus to speed, reach, and massively up your strength at the same time -- well, duh.

Possible fixes:

1) Ban it.
2) Say that it can only turn targets into inoffensive little weenies, like rats or slugs or fish. In other words, it's primarily an offensive spell, to be used on hostiles (though being able to turn yourself into a bat or something, to do recog, is always nice)
3) Base what you can turn your target into off of the ECL of the new creature (which you can get from Soldarin's CR creature calculator, or that Dragon magazine issue on it, or whatever).

I'm in favor of #2, myself.

 

[IceBear]

No one is forcing you to post here, Icy. Go attack some Fire Giants with sneak-attack rays of frost . . .

Will do Mr Forrester, sir! Sir!

Thank God for ignore. Buh-bye

 

[smetzger]

I know this is probably a stupid question, but is Polymorph Other completely broken (way too powerful)?

I am undecided. But It definantly changes the flavor when everyone is polymorphed as a Stone Giant.

If so, how do you deal with it?

I use the errated rules as written. If you are in search of a 'fix' the House Rules forum would be a more appropriate place to ask this question.

 

[gfunk]

Re: Re: Polymorph Other - Broken? Suggestions?

I am undecided. But It definantly changes the flavor when everyone is polymorphed as a Stone Giant.

Amen brother!

When the Wizard picks up Poly Other at 7th, the game degenerates into Dungeons & Annis Hags.

Then, as you mentioned, it turns into Dungeons & Stone Giants.

If you can't think of a good reason why every adventurer and BBEG in the world is not running around as an Annis Hag or Stone Giant, then you should probably nerf it.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Re: Re: Polymorph Other - Broken? Suggestions?

I use the errated rules as written. If you are in search of a 'fix' the House Rules forum would be a more appropriate place to ask this question.

What is the most recent errata (or what book is it in)? I can't remember for some reason...

 

[gfunk]

The most recent errata is in T&B.

In brief, it puts a 14 HD cap on the spell and bans Polymorph into Constructs, Outsiders, and Undead (unless you are already of the type). Also you can only increase in size to one more than your current one.

Disorientation is eliminated, but so is changing multiple times.

The spell has become Monomorph Other.

 

[shilsen]

The most recent errata is in T&B.

In brief, it puts a 14 HD cap on the spell and bans Polymorph into Constructs, Outsiders, and Undead (unless you are already of the type). Also you can only increase in size to one more than your current one.

Disorientation is eliminated, but so is changing multiple times.

The spell has become Monomorph Other.

15 HD.