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Possibly two Villains in Spider-Man 3

Brother Shatterstone said:
Actually Eddie Brock was a reporter... and I guess Clark Kent should be worried about his build now also. ;) :lol:

You're both right- Brock was a photojournalist. Also, as I recall, his phenomenal physique was explained by him embarking on bodybuilding after being fired from the Daily Bugle. Something to do with him channeling his rage at Peter Parker, I think.

I may be wrong- I'm not a big fan of the character.
 

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As long as Raimi goes the Doc Ock approach to the villain as opposed to the Green Goblin approach, I don't care who the bad guys are. I do have to say that I've always liked Thomas Hayden Church on TV. He'll make a good baddie.
 


Viking Bastard said:
Care to elaborate?
Sure.

First off, and the most obvious, is the look/costume. GG was terrible and almost laughable to look at. The glider was pretty cool but the rest of the look didn't work at all, therefore diminishing the character and the filim.

The Doc Ock tenticles were another character all to themselves and handled wonderfully. Not to mention the rest of the look, which could have been overdone but wasn't. Great villain all around.

The second thing about GG that did work but was done better in S2 was the split personality. So I have no grumbles, Doc Ock was just a better character and someone who you could sympathize with. Hard to sympathize with a rich madman who ignores his son. Flavor, I guess.

Lastly, just the way that the GG was used wasn't all that great. It would have been nice to play up the angle of OsCorp essentially making Peter into Spider-man. I know that Osborn never found out about that but he could easily have, considering the amount of security that place must have. An experimental mutant spider getting loose should have been no small thing considering the company's focus on science (not to mention the financial situation). Missed oportunity if you ask me. Yeah, this doesn't directly relate to the Goblin as a villain but it would have made the story better.

It should also be mentioned that Spider-man 2 is one of my favorite movies of all time (at the moment) so there is a bias here. :)
 

Well, that doesn't really seem to me as different approaches as much as simply Ock
and GG being different characters. If there's anything, it's that GG is much closer to
his MU counterpart than Ock is (despite the Power Rangers suit).

GG's never been particularly interesting character for me. It's the GG's legacy that
made him the terror he was.
 

Brother Shatterstone said:
I do think there was a nicer way to say that (like maybe without the unneeded comment in brackets) but you are right about one thing… I imagine the typical audience member doesn’t know any of the characters beyond Spiderman looked like before the first one, and still after the second one I doubt they could pick out many/any of the other rogues not featured so they could probably careless about who the villain would be as long as the movie is good.
Probably would have been nicer without the brackets, but the brackets are what made the comment mine :) Doesn't matter to me if anyone aggrees with me, and I don't actually mean to offend anyone, but I DESPISE Venom. He's sort of the epitome of everything wrong with modern comics. Scratch that. He IS the epitome of everything wrong with modern comics. By modern I mean approx 1990-present. I'm sure that comics have actually gone through a paradigm shift or two in that time frame (I have not consistently collected through the entire time), but some mistakes just won't go away it seems.
 

Viking Bastard said:
Well, that doesn't really seem to me as different approaches as much as simply Ock
and GG being different characters. If there's anything, it's that GG is much closer to
his MU counterpart than Ock is (despite the Power Rangers suit).

GG's never been particularly interesting character for me. It's the GG's legacy that
made him the terror he was.
Okay, that works too. The character's story needs to be compelling. Now, if he does 2-3 more Spidey pics and needs all that GG stuff to make future stories really pump than that would work.

Even still, there could have been much more done with Goblin than he did. Average split-personality madmen just don't do it for me like it used to. They gots to have substance. That's what makes a great (superhero) movie compared to an average one.
 

Canis said:
Probably would have been nicer without the brackets, but the brackets are what made the comment mine :)

and in all honesty its pretty much what turned me off from whatever you have to say... :\

Edit: grammer
 
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I'm not sure if there is any truth to it, but I could have sworn that I heard something about the directors killing off Spider-Man in the second sequel so there wouldn't be any more sequels.
 

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