D&D 5E (2024) Preferences in a New Official 5.5e Specific Setting

[Yaarel]

You can't translate some parts of Elric, but not other parts and have a D&D translation of Elric. Either you translate them all, and the PC has access to a god that can act directly in the world, or you don't have an Elric translation, but instead an off brand copy. Elric is Corn Flakes, and your D&D translation is Flat Corn Pieces that don't taste as good.

You are characterizing Arioch as if omnipotent. That is neither true for the novels, nor useful for D&D gaming. There are effective limitations in play.

The translation into D&D emphasizes the narrative limitations that exist in the novels. The concept of conflicts with other cosmic forces, bargains with Humans, and designating some Humans as champions to further the alignment cause, are some of these limitations that restrict Arioch from the influence over the rest of the multiverse that exists beyond the Astral dominion that Arioch inhabits.

 

[Maxperson]

You are characterizing Arioch as if omnipotent. That is neither true for the novels, nor useful for D&D gaming. There are effective limitations in play.

The translation into D&D emphasizes the narrative limitations that exist in the novels. The concept of conflicts with other cosmic forces, bargains with Humans, and designating some Humans as champions to further the alignment cause, are some of these limitations that restrict Arioch from the influence over the rest of the multiverse that exists beyond the Astral dominion that Arioch inhabits.

No I'm not saying he's omnipotent, but then neither are D&D gods. I'm saying 1) he can affect things on a universal level(this is fact re: Moorcock books), and 2) they can take direct hand in the world(this is fact re: Moorcock books).

 

[Yaarel]

No I'm not saying he's omnipotent, but then neither are D&D gods. I'm saying 1) he can affect things on a universal level(this is fact re: Moorcock books), and 2) they can take direct hand in the world(this is fact re: Moorcock books).

Maybe the Chaotic (Evil) alignment had more room to carve out a niche during primordial times. But this is no longer true in the current multiverse. The system has locked into place to a significant degree.

Affecting things on a universal level is the definition of a cosmic force, a normal DND concept. But all cosmic forces have respective limitations. Even monotheism is significantly limited by the need for Human (Humanoid) free will. To a large degree the Material Plane is laissez faire, and Humans are responsible for making it more Good, instead of more Evil.

For Chaotic Arioch, the multiverse defacto restricts what whims Arioch can successfully implement.

 

[Maxperson]

For Chaotic Arioch, the multiverse defacto restricts what whims Arioch can successfully implement.

It doesn't really, since we know that there are universes in Moorcock's multiverse that have gone all the way to chaos or law. They eventually get reset, but that doesn't mean that Arioch didn't successfully implement his whims in the universes that went all the way to chaos.

 

[Yaarel]

It doesn't really, since we know that there are universes in Moorcock's multiverse that have gone all the way to chaos or law. They eventually get reset, but that doesn't mean that Arioch didn't successfully implement his whims in the universes that went all the way to chaos.

For D&D, the "other universes" are more like the personal dominion that is responsive to a particular Astral (Celestial/Fiend). Compare Arvandor of Corellon. Lolth has her own "level" in the CE Abyss. Some of these are infinite in spacial size.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well with what's released so far im thinking a magitech world where the phb races are front and center.

Maybe inspired by Fallout. Theres power armor in Infinite Staircase.

 

[Maxperson]

For D&D, the "other universes" are more like the personal dominion that is responsive to a particular Astral (Celestial/Fiend). Compare Arvandor of Corellon. Lolth has her own "level" in the CE Abyss. Some of these are infinite in spacial size.

Which is why D&D can't duplicate Moorcock. You can get a loose situation inspired by Moorcock, but you can't get anywhere close to the Moorcock multiverse with D&D unless the DM does a great deal of unbalanced house ruling.

 

[Yaarel]

Which is why D&D can't duplicate Moorcock. You can get a loose situation inspired by Moorcock, but you can't get anywhere close to the Moorcock multiverse with D&D unless the DM does a great deal of unbalanced house ruling.

An Elric setting would delete the Wheel, and only have LLE Acheron and CCE Pandemonium, plus maybe a Neutral (Good) Astral Plane. These alignments would interact to generate and influence the Material Plane. There might be an endless number of parallel Material Planes.

In this setting, D&D rules can work normally. Or it can cap at level 8 and ban fullcasters to assist the sword and sorcery feel. If so, interaction with alignment forces and a Relic like the sword Stormbringer would be DM fiat.

(I forget if the novels describe how an afterlife works.)

 

[Azzy]

Preferably, an official setting would not retread the past. Fantasy as a genre has moved on since Conan and Elric, heck even D&D has moved on. If a new setting were to be made, let it be more in line with modern fantasy rather than trying to resurrect the dead.

 

[Scribe]

Preferably, an official setting would not retread the past. Fantasy as a genre has moved on since Conan and Elric, heck even D&D has moved on. If a new setting were to be made, let it be more in line with modern fantasy rather than trying to resurrect the dead.

Moved on or lost its way?