Question Re: Warden's Fury.

[Minifig]

Warden's Fury
At-Will ◆　Primal, Weapon
Immediate Interrupt　 　　Melee weapon
Trigger：An enemy marked by you makes an attack that does not include you as a target
Target: The triggering enemy
Attack: Str vs. Fort
Hit: 1[W] + Strength modifier damage, and the target grants combat advantage to you and your allies until the end of your next turn.
Level 21: 2[W] + Strength modifier damage.

All Warden's get this ability. This is known.



We're currently fighting our first dragon in our campaign (it's massively exciting!).. The amazing thing is, it's bloodied.

However, here in lies the situation.

Our mage, who is sitting right next to me (now that I've moved) is also bloodied. The dragon is soon to be marked by me, and I was wondering IF the dragon uses its breath attack (because I'm out of range of it's attack, yet still near the mage) and the mage is within range, if using Warden's Fury, I can say "Nuh uh!" to the dragon, who still (strangely) hasn't hit me, and interrupt the attack and come to the aid of the lowly mage and take the brunt of the attack.. and roll a saving throw prior to it because of the Font of Life ability Warden's get as well, and if that misses, I can also roll again at the end of my turn because it's a save end for the poison damage.

Is this feasible and legit?

 

[abyssaldeath]

What? None of what you wrote made any sense to me.

If the Dragon isn't marked yet then he won't trigger Warden's Fury. Also, all Warden's Fury does is let you make a melee attack. I'm not understanding where you are coming up with "taking the brunt of the attack".

Font of life lets you make a saving throw at the beginning of you turn, but you have to be under the effect of something that allows a saving throw first. You can't make saves against something that hasn't happened yet.

Does that help or did I completely miss what you were trying to say?

 

[Minifig]

What? None of what you wrote made any sense to me.

If the Dragon isn't marked yet then he won't trigger Warden's Fury. Also, all Warden's Fury does is let you make a melee attack. I'm not understanding where you are coming up with "taking the brunt of the attack".

Font of life lets you make a saving throw at the beginning of you turn, but you have to be under the effect of something that allows a saving throw first. You can't make saves against something that hasn't happened yet.

Does that help or did I completely miss what you were trying to say?

My turn is up next... THEN the Dragons comes.


I was going to mark it.. attack it..

I know the dragon is going to breath on our group.. but I'm out of it's range... I'm to it's side, unless it turns.. and it can't because it's immobilized... It's only going to be able to breath.

Which means I can interrupt.

Right?

 

[Mad Hamish]

If the dragon uses its breath weapon when you have it marked and does not include you in the attack you can use Warden's Fury on it however
a) you have to be in the range of your melee weapon to hit it, if you aren't in range of the dragon's attack it probably isn't in your range
b) the attack still targets the mage
c) Font of Life is at the start of your turn, using an immediate interrupt or an attack of opportunity doesn't make it your turn
Your turn only happens when your characters initiative comes around.

 

[Mad Hamish]

My turn is up next... THEN the Dragons comes.


I was going to mark it.. attack it..

I know the dragon is going to breath on our group.. but I'm out of it's range... I'm to it's side, unless it turns.. and it can't because it's immobilized... It's only going to be able to breath.

Which means I can interrupt.

Right?

by the book immobilized only means that it can't move to another square using normal movement. It can hit you fine.

 

[DracoSuave]

How is the dragon not marked? You need to be adjacent to it to use Warden's Fury, and you mark things adjacent to you.

However, if you're flanking with that wizard or they're otherwise set up so the blast can't hit you and the dragon, yeah, if he attacks the wizard with it, and not you, Warden's Fury can kick in and deal its damage.

On the other hand, Warden's Fury will only prevent the action if the attack somehow can invalidate the action; the only way it can in this case is to kill the dragon.

Also, why is your wizard standing in breath range of the dragon? Ideally, you want to be set up so the dragon can't easily slip past you to get in range of the ranged attackers.

 

[Minifig]

How is the dragon not marked?

Our pally just marked it last turn, dissipating my already existing mark so I'm going to remark it to cover the mage.

Also, why is your wizard standing in breath range of the dragon? Ideally, you want to be set up so the dragon can't easily slip past you to get in range of the ranged attackers.

The area we're fighting in is, really.. really awful.. and... I don't know if the mage knows exactly what they're doing, but we're pretty well blocked off visually..

 

[DracoSuave]

Our pally just marked it last turn, dissipating my already existing mark so I'm going to remark it to cover the mage.

If you're in a two defender group, defenders should not be competing for marks.

Choose a primary defender, let them take the brunt of things, when they start getting hurt, trade off roles.

The area we're fighting in is, really.. really awful.. and... I don't know if the mage knows exactly what they're doing, but we're pretty well blocked off visually..

Honestly, the paladin should probably cede primary defenderness to you. Use movement abilities to force the dragon out of range of the wizard (He has thunderwave I hope) and then you keep as a barrier between the dragon and the wizard, ready to use Nature's Grasp to keep the dragon out of range of the artillery.

 

[Minifig]

If you're in a two defender group, defenders should not be competing for marks.

Choose a primary defender, let them take the brunt of things, when they start getting hurt, trade off roles.



Honestly, the paladin should probably cede primary defenderness to you. Use movement abilities to force the dragon out of range of the wizard (He has thunderwave I hope) and then you keep as a barrier between the dragon and the wizard, ready to use Nature's Grasp to keep the dragon out of range of the artillery.

We aren't competing, he's just out of adjacent range to the mage, and I'm being a hero to the mage and saving it so that the pally can come up the next time and whack the dragon opside the head. I've already taken over the primary roll of Defender. I'm the Sequoia of the group. Not much gets by me. . The pally just happened to have to move to use his breath (he's a Dragonborn.. and when he did.. he got out of range to defend the poor little mage).. so I'm stepping in and saying "I'll save you Missus mage!"

 

[DracoSuave]

The pally just happened to have to move to use his breath (he's a Dragonborn.. and when he did.. he got out of range to defend the poor little mage).. so I'm stepping in and saying "I'll save you Missus mage!"

But... his breath range is... at maximum, five squares... and divine challenge once applied, and once the dragon is engaged (dragonborn's breath counts as engaging), Divine challenge doesn't have a range... and why does he have to move to do a breath that works on adjacent creatures... and... and... why is he applying Divine Challenge if you're the primary defender... and why is he spending a minor action to Divine Challenge just to change his move action to a Dragon Breath... and... and... what

Yeah, this doesn't make sense either!