Quiz

[Goldmoon]

Can anyone tell me how to make a 4th level human rogue get three attacks in a round with a single weapon? (all three were sneak attacks by the way and my opponent never moved) I did this in a game session and my DM flipped out and said it was too powerful.

 

[IcyCool]

Can anyone tell me how to make a 4th level human rogue get three attacks in a round with a single weapon? (all three were sneak attacks by the way and my opponent never moved) I did this in a game session and my DM flipped out and said it was too powerful.

A single weapon? I can come up with two attacks (regular + haste attack), but where do you get three with a single weapon and only a BAB of +3?

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Can anyone tell me how to make a 4th level human rogue get three attacks in a round with a single weapon? (all three were sneak attacks by the way and my opponent never moved) I did this in a game session and my DM flipped out and said it was too powerful.

How were you able to do that if you don't know how to do that? What explanation did you give to the DM?

Anyway, you can get two from Two-Weapon Fighting. At 4th-level, it's hard to get access to Haste. Even a Potion of Haste (if such a thing exists) would take up quite a chunk of wealth. But that requires more than one weapon.

If you only have one weapon, maybe you could use Combat Reflexes, and hope to get multiple AoOs (maybe use a spiked chain?), or use Cleave (your sneak attacks have a decent chance of killing an opponent in one blow at such low levels), but the latter takes up too many feat slots for a 4th-level rogue. (Cleave only gives you one extra attack.)

Rapid Shot could give you two attacks with a single weapon. You don't qualify for Manyshot or Whirlwind Attack. I don't know if you can can combine Rapid Shot with Haste or anything else.

 

[DanMcS]

Rapid shot and haste would be the obvious way. If you have to ask how to do it, how did you do it originally?

 

[Goldmoon]

How were you able to do that if you don't know how to do that? What explanation did you give to the DM?

Anyway, you can get two from Two-Weapon Fighting. At 4th-level, it's hard to get access to Haste. Even a Potion of Haste (if such a thing exists) would take up quite a chunk of wealth. But that requires more than one weapon.

If you only have one weapon, maybe you could use Combat Reflexes, and hope to get multiple AoOs (maybe use a spiked chain?), or use Cleave (your sneak attacks have a decent chance of killing an opponent in one blow at such low levels), but the latter takes up too many feat slots for a 4th-level rogue. (Cleave only gives you one extra attack.)

Rapid Shot could give you two attacks with a single weapon. You don't qualify for Manyshot or Whirlwind Attack. I don't know if you can can combine Rapid Shot with Haste or anything else.

I know how to do it, I was just sort of starting a rules game. It was not a ranged weapon either and I was facing only one opponent so combat reflexes wont work.

 

[Goldmoon]

Rapid shot and haste would be the obvious way. If you have to ask how to do it, how did you do it originally?

No magic or macical items were involved.

 

[DanMcS]

I know how to do it, I was just sort of starting a rules game. It was not a ranged weapon either and I was facing only one opponent so combat reflexes wont work.

Two-weapon fighting, haste, and a quarterstaff, then.

Blast, we crossposted and you said no magic.

Combat reflexes would work, actually, since all your opponent has to do is something stupid like attack unarmed. Movement and/or other opponents not required.

The easiest way, then is two-weapon fighting with a double weapon and your opponent provoking an attack of opportunity, perhaps by standing up from prone or trying a combat maneuver like disarm or trip. You don't even need combat reflexes.

Of course you will come in in the next post and change the parameters of your question, so I'm done with this.

 

[Krelios]

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[Goldmoon]

Two-weapon fighting, haste, and a quarterstaff, then.

Blast, we crossposted and you said no magic.

Combat reflexes would work, actually, since all your opponent has to do is something stupid like attack unarmed. Movement and/or other opponents not required.

The easiest way, then is two-weapon fighting with a double weapon and your opponent provoking an attack of opportunity, perhaps by standing up from prone or trying a combat maneuver like disarm or trip. You don't even need combat reflexes.

Of course you will come in in the next post and change the parameters of your question, so I'm done with this.

Sorry Dan but I did say single weapon.

 

[IcyCool]

Forgot about using a double weapon. So let's see, to my knowledge that leaves the following options (which have all been stated in the thread, I'm just listing them in a handy format):

1. Double weapon + two weapon fighting + AoO.
2. Double weapon + two weapon fighting + cleave attack (can't be used because apparently you were only facing a single foe).
3. Double weapon + two weapon fighting + haste (can't be used because you said no magic, so that rules out a weapon of speed as well).
4. Single weapon + combat reflexes + AoO (which can still work against a single opponent, but you said this wasn't it, so...)

So, how about it?