RA Salavatore Books vs 4.0 E
I have the feeling Salvatore wouldn't up his books 100 years in the future for the next one. He's still going to milk all his current characters for a while.
Speculation re: Non-spellcasting Drizzt:
He's not a high enough level ranger to qualify for spellcasting. Fighter/Barb/Ranger/Dervish or Tempest/whatever else.
Speculation re: Non-spellcasting Drizzt:
He's not a high enough level ranger to qualify for spellcasting. Fighter/Barb/Ranger/Dervish or Tempest/whatever else.
Aris Dragonborn
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megamania said:
Huh. I guess I need to re-read the books again, because I don't remember that at all.
Rechan said:
Fighter10/Barbarian1/Ranger5 (according to wizards.com).
A Ranger5 has access to 1st level spells, though there's a '0' in the spells-per-day chart. By virtue of a 17 Wis, he gets 1 bonus 1st, 2nd, and 3rd level spell.
I don't get the 1 level of Barbarian, though. IMHO, he wasn't in the wilds of the Underdark long enough to rate gaining that class. Just call him a Fighter11/Ranger5 or Fighter 10/Ranger6 and be done with it.
Although, considering that he served as the advanced scout for the drow patrols, I think you could make an argument that he's more of a Ranger than a Fighter - Ranger10/Fighter5 maybe?
JRRNeiklot
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He cast animal friendship on a seal once, after one of his scimitars got tossed in a lake.
MisterWhodat
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He has never cast any healing spells. He is most definatly a barbarian in Exile.
hamishspence
Adventurer
Salvatore's books vs the Rules in FRCS
Sometimes they differ a lot, sometimes a little, almost any conversion will have odd things.
Personal objections: Guen as a slightly advanced normal sized panther, and a pure figurine of wondrous power.
These things animate! Guen is more of a summonable. and a big one at that!
MY Guen would be a Celestial Dire Puma (panther) with some decent feats so she can do some decent damage to outsiders. Repeatedly stated that she is an outsider and can damage demons, bargests and the like with her claws: Sanctify Natural Weapon, or simply the Good subtype, would fix it, (Celestial animals do not technically get the Good subtype)
Elder Brain: CR26 in present rules, went down WAY too easy to Guen on her own: it has DR20/adamantine!
Apart from that, there aren't many major complaints.
Sometimes they differ a lot, sometimes a little, almost any conversion will have odd things.
Personal objections: Guen as a slightly advanced normal sized panther, and a pure figurine of wondrous power.
These things animate! Guen is more of a summonable. and a big one at that!
MY Guen would be a Celestial Dire Puma (panther) with some decent feats so she can do some decent damage to outsiders. Repeatedly stated that she is an outsider and can damage demons, bargests and the like with her claws: Sanctify Natural Weapon, or simply the Good subtype, would fix it, (Celestial animals do not technically get the Good subtype)
Elder Brain: CR26 in present rules, went down WAY too easy to Guen on her own: it has DR20/adamantine!
Apart from that, there aren't many major complaints.
hamishspence
Adventurer
The Conversion Process: 3.5 to 4th
YES, WOTC said it is too much like hard work for players to convert 3.5 ed characters to new edition.
I disagree. If they wish to use ANY old favorites in the new ed Players Guide to Faerun, or new FRCS if there is one, they will need to do some of it.
Obviously some characters have no precise equivalent, but the training feats, paragon paths, and epic destinies should allow some matching up.
Elminster: 1 fighter training feat, 1 Rogue training feat, 1 cleric training feat, 27th level Wizard, Epic Destiny: Chosen of Deity. Some epic paths strongly suggest you can become an agent of deity with immortality. This is EXACTLY like the old Chosen of Mystra template.
Yes, doing it this way will mean less cool powers for the Sage of Shadowdale, but it will also mean no annoying template, and make it so players with the right choices can do the same sort of thing. No more "The NPC's are Different" I chose 27th level because it has traction: he was that level in 2nd ed.
Drizzt: 18th level Ranger, Barbarian Training (if possible) maybe a Fighter training feat or two. Now we can have a Drizzt that is same level as Artemis, without a Level adjustment, and all ranger levels, like he was in last edition!
If multiclassing is gone, but you can do similar tricks by taking feats, without having a perfectly balanced character with equal powers in both, it could be interesting. No more mystic theurge equality: now they are mages with cleric training, or clerics with mage training, and the Mystic Theurge paragon path.
Be aware I do not KNOW they are abolishing multiclassing, but the theme in Races and Classes book seemed a lot like that. It said Tank Mages are Mages with Armour Proficiency, maybe a Fighter Training feat or two. That sounds awfully like much less multiclassing to me, maybe no multiclassing.
Oh, and Swordmage sounds rather better than Gish to me. It gives a category for the Magic Wielding Fighter Type that avoids making him too good at a distance: his armour is magical energy, his sword glows with fire or other power, his job is to defend, and slay things in melee.
All things considered, only a few of the most exotic new 3.5 ed classes will be impossible to convert, in my opinion. Might have to change a few names: Warmage=Wizard with a few Fighter Training things, Knight is fighter specialising in defence of others, Beguiler is rather harder though.
Binders WOULD have fitted Warlock with Vestige pacts, a little bit, but apparently these pacts are now gone. Drat.
Factotum could be Rogue with a lot of training feats and skills
Incarnum classes have no close fit, though Soulblades might squeeze into Paladin niche.
Most core players, ever some multiclass players, will be able to reconstuct a approxiate equivalent of their old characters, I think.
Those who cannot, are stuck with old edition.
YES, WOTC said it is too much like hard work for players to convert 3.5 ed characters to new edition.
I disagree. If they wish to use ANY old favorites in the new ed Players Guide to Faerun, or new FRCS if there is one, they will need to do some of it.
Obviously some characters have no precise equivalent, but the training feats, paragon paths, and epic destinies should allow some matching up.
Elminster: 1 fighter training feat, 1 Rogue training feat, 1 cleric training feat, 27th level Wizard, Epic Destiny: Chosen of Deity. Some epic paths strongly suggest you can become an agent of deity with immortality. This is EXACTLY like the old Chosen of Mystra template.
Yes, doing it this way will mean less cool powers for the Sage of Shadowdale, but it will also mean no annoying template, and make it so players with the right choices can do the same sort of thing. No more "The NPC's are Different" I chose 27th level because it has traction: he was that level in 2nd ed.
Drizzt: 18th level Ranger, Barbarian Training (if possible) maybe a Fighter training feat or two. Now we can have a Drizzt that is same level as Artemis, without a Level adjustment, and all ranger levels, like he was in last edition!
If multiclassing is gone, but you can do similar tricks by taking feats, without having a perfectly balanced character with equal powers in both, it could be interesting. No more mystic theurge equality: now they are mages with cleric training, or clerics with mage training, and the Mystic Theurge paragon path.
Be aware I do not KNOW they are abolishing multiclassing, but the theme in Races and Classes book seemed a lot like that. It said Tank Mages are Mages with Armour Proficiency, maybe a Fighter Training feat or two. That sounds awfully like much less multiclassing to me, maybe no multiclassing.
Oh, and Swordmage sounds rather better than Gish to me. It gives a category for the Magic Wielding Fighter Type that avoids making him too good at a distance: his armour is magical energy, his sword glows with fire or other power, his job is to defend, and slay things in melee.
All things considered, only a few of the most exotic new 3.5 ed classes will be impossible to convert, in my opinion. Might have to change a few names: Warmage=Wizard with a few Fighter Training things, Knight is fighter specialising in defence of others, Beguiler is rather harder though.
Binders WOULD have fitted Warlock with Vestige pacts, a little bit, but apparently these pacts are now gone. Drat.
Factotum could be Rogue with a lot of training feats and skills
Incarnum classes have no close fit, though Soulblades might squeeze into Paladin niche.
Most core players, ever some multiclass players, will be able to reconstuct a approxiate equivalent of their old characters, I think.
Those who cannot, are stuck with old edition.
DungeonMaester
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RAS's novels are a refection of the FR setting, not the D&D rules. Or, at least that what he lead us to believe.
---Rusty the (one) Jaralxlefan
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