Races With Wisdom Bonus And No LA - Possible?

[Nifft]

I think you're after Wisdom Elves.

Be careful amigo. This is the forum where people occasionally take you seriously.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Zurai]

Funny how those seem to crop up in so many games.

(But also see Psion, Wilder, and Erudite.)

Cheers, -- N

True, I forgot about psionics - I'll give you that. No one around here plays psions (not really because it's banned, just not many interested in them).

I wasn't contesting your point (though I don't agree with it), but rather your presentation. As I said, there are more split-stat/MAD primary casters than there are SAD ones; thus, your assertion that "being a primary spellcaster" means you only ever care about one stat is provably false.

 

[Nifft]

I wasn't contesting your point (though I don't agree with it), but rather your presentation. As I said, there are more split-stat/MAD primary casters than there are SAD ones; thus, your assertion that "being a primary spellcaster" means you only ever care about one stat is provably false.

Okay, being a primary spellcaster in the SRD. Happy?

-- N

 

[Slaved]

There is nothing inherantly wrong with having a +0 level adjustment race with a +2 in any of the six base statistics. Each statistic is powerful in its own way.

Classes that could benefit from a higher casting statistic the most tend to have the lowest hit dice as well. That generally means that constitution and dexterity are very important, they might even be more important than the primary casting statistic!

Is a +2 to a casting statistic more powerful than +2 to dexterity or strength? Each for classes that use those statistics of course.

 

[frankthedm]

There is nothing inherantly wrong with having a +0 level adjustment race with a +2 in any of the six base statistics.

For LA+0, there is a problem. All characters have the option to age themselves. Another mental bump onto that does quickly become too good.

1. At middle age, -1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
2. At old age, -2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
3. At venerable age, -3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

For LA+0, there is a problem. All characters have the option to age themselves. Another mental bump onto that does quickly become too good.

What if aging was not an option. Would said race still need a LA?

 

[Nifft]

What if aging was not an option. Would said race still need a LA?

Yes. It's hard to get a +1 bonus to spell DCs. Giving that AND bonus spells is too much.

Consider the difference between a Human spellcaster (who uses his bonus feat to take Spell Focus) and a Wisdom Elf who gains a +1 bonus to all spell DCs.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Slaved]

For LA+0, there is a problem. All characters have the option to age themselves. Another mental bump onto that does quickly become too good.

How and when does it become too good?

 

[Slaved]

Yes. It's hard to get a +1 bonus to spell DCs. Giving that AND bonus spells is too much.

Consider the difference between a Human spellcaster (who uses his bonus feat to take Spell Focus) and a Wisdom Elf who gains a +1 bonus to all spell DCs.

Cheers, -- N

Conisder the difference between a human wizard with a 10 in constitution with a human wizard with an 8 in constitution and the toughness feat.

If you think that a +1 to spell difficulty classes is that bad you should look at what dexterity does!

 

[Jhaelen]

If you think that a +1 to spell difficulty classes is that bad you should look at what dexterity does!

Now, I'm curious: What would that be?