Raising the Dead...

Trickstergod

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LokiDR said:

You can use wish as an improved form of time heal. You can restore a person to the state they were in a few minutes ago, and not loose a level, as they do with Greater Timeheal. The precident is Die Vecna Die, where a pair of lich brothers did this. It even restores the wish that the slain brother had.

Wish cannot emulate True Resurrection - which is precisely what bringing someone back from the dead without level loss is. Not, at least, without that "Greater effect" clause wherein the request needs to be worded just right, or otherwise it backfires in your face. Seeing as how the latest, 3rd edition precedent is going to supercede an older, 2nd edition one.
 

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Murrdox

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The great thing about Animate Dead is that it makes is such that if you don't have access to Raise Dead or something similar... Animate Dead will save you from having to carry your companion's corpse back to town.

Can you Raise Dead a corpse that has been Animated, or do you need Ressurrection? I forget. It's still funny though. ;)
 

Artoomis

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Trickstergod said:


Wish cannot emulate True Resurrection - which is precisely what bringing someone back from the dead without level loss is. Not, at least, without that "Greater effect" clause wherein the request needs to be worded just right, or otherwise it backfires in your face. Seeing as how the latest, 3rd edition precedent is going to supercede an older, 2nd edition one.

Your statement is partially true:

Undo misfortune. A wish can undo a single recent event. The wish forces a reroll of any roll made within the last round (including the character's last turn). Reality reshapes itself to accommodate the new result. The reroll, however, may be as bad as or worse than the original roll. An unwilling target gets a Will save to negate and SR.

Within those limits, it might undo the thing that caused death.

Also:

The character may wish for greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. Such a wish gives the opportunity to fulfill the character's request without fulfilling it completely. (The wish may pervert the character's intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment.)

Which is not quite the same thing as your statment of "needs to be worded just right, or otherwise it backfires in your face."
 

Trickstergod

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Artoomis said:

Your statement is partially true:

Completely fair, and you are completely right; I just kind of skimmed over the "Undo Misfortune" part. Still, the effect is generally only going to undo the specific harmful effect which brought about death, which could mean the benefactor is still seriously damaged. But, yeah. My mistake.
 

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