Random peeves

[Morrus]

This would be a good example of Assuming the Worst (and then seeking to punish the other for it). Step back.

I'm not intentionally rude. But if you walk in front of me and stand there, I have to get around you. Sometimes that involves unintentional contact. Sometimes that involves putting my hand out to stop you. Sometimes that requires me to nudge you to get your attention.

Unfortunately, on very rare occasions, I am required to be rude. If I say "excuse me" several times and you ignore me, I need to take firmer steps to get you to move. (You may be intentionally distracting or obstructing me in order to help someone else approach and/or rob me.)

In no case have I ever resorted to violence. Period. But I can be verbally rude when required.

OK, but that wasn't your description. You described yourself pushing past people, and them taking exception to that and remarking on it. In which case, good for them!

Frankly, whether or not you're carrying someone else's money and/or have a gun is irrelevant. It may be relevant to you, but someone else's money and your gun not being delayed 3 seconds is not relevant to me. Someone else's money can wait 3 seconds if I want to get the the grapefruits in the supermarket. Those aims are not more important than mine - which I will value, at the moment, to the exact amount you are carrying.

If someone is deliberately obstructing you, that's different. Again, the money and the gun are irrelevant. Obsruction of another person is rude, and rudeness is an acceptable response.

But your money and your gun have nothing to do with it. They are not more important than my grapefruit.

 

[Mycanid]

Not too easy to describe ssampier.... I don't want to bad mouth folks. Just because something is a "pet peeve" to you doesn't mean they are worthy targets to be badmouthed.

I guess I tried to explain it in the lower part of the first post.

Basically it goes like this. Everyone has experiences in their life when they experience something in a "big" way, and it makes a life-forming impression on them - on their tastes, their likes, their dislikes, and the rest. This is a very normal thing, and everyone has this. Of course there are varying levels on which it can happen as well, but it is a "natural" thing.

What then naturally happens is that the person wants to experience such a thing again, so he exposes himself to similiar circumstances to bring it about. This usually fails, or if it succeeds, it does not last long. Something changes. So the person goes about creating and surrounding himself with more things that are in harmony with the thing that affected him so ... and by "in harmony" I mean in the musical sense of the word. One way to emphasize the melody one is listening to is to sing a harmony with it. And the choices one makes do something similiar.

It is quite natural for people to live their whole lives based on/revolving around/ launching off of two or three of these life-forming things/events for the rest of their lives, believe it or not. They happen to us most strongly when we are in our teen years and growing at a fast rate both physically, intellectually and emotionally.

Again, all this is quite normal and regular features of our daily life.

Now to the peeve - when a person takes this experience and then extends the field of controlling the environment to harmonize off of the experience he had to other people against their will. And even after repeated requests to not do so, to keep it private, etc.

Be aware that I cam not talking about religious or political convictions here - I am talking about personal tastes and likings that are either glommed onto religio-politic convictions or raised to the level of them and then pushing it down other peoples throats whether they want to hear it or not. And this pushing can be down in crude ways, yes - but there are other subtler means of manipulation, and these DRIVE ME UP THE WALL.

Oh yes. Did I mention that I was a very private person?

Okay ... I hope that answers your question somewhat. Like I said, it's not an easy thing to articulate.

 

[Chimera]

OK, but that wasn't your description. You described yourself pushing past people, and them taking exception to that and remarking on it. In which case, good for them!

Too bad for them.

It may be relevant to you, but someone else's money and your gun not being delayed 3 seconds is not relevant to me.

"Blah, blah, I'm selfish and don't care about others." Yeah, I see that all day long.

Obsruction of another person is rude, and rudeness is an acceptable response.

I don't think you quite meant that - probably missed a word there. I see it only as a last resort, which although very rare, is still necessary far more than I'd like.

They are not more important than my grapefruit.

Again, the selfish 'me first' attitude that is the very basis of why people wonder how our society has become so rude. Look first to your own casual, thoughtless rudeness to others and then think about how it affects you when others do it to you.

And then consider that this thread was titled "Random Peeves", I've had a bad week and I wanted to vent my job peeves.

 

[Chimera]

Basically it goes like this. Everyone has experiences in their life when they experience something in a "big" way, and it makes a life-forming impression on them

{snip}

What then naturally happens is that the person wants to experience such a thing again, so he exposes himself to similiar circumstances to bring it about. This usually fails, or if it succeeds, it does not last long. Something changes. So the person goes about creating and surrounding himself with more things that are in harmony with the thing that affected him so ...

Do you realize that this would be a fairly accurate description of how people go about becoming addicted to hard drugs?

 

[Mycanid]

Chimera - yes, it is so. But there are other things as well that one can "grow into" and develop. Drugs and alcohol and other similiar subjects are usually the more dangerous "raw materials" if you will that we can focus on!

But what I had in mind were not these, but things a little more "normal", "non-destructive" if you will. There are some which are much more "healthy" and others which are optimum. Yes, I know, this opens a huge can of worms - I won't go there in deference to the no politics/religion rule.

But for the moment the point is that the source of my peeve is described in my previous post.

 

[Galethorn]

You know what I hate? People who don't use their turn signals. It takes zero effort, and it does absolutely nothing negative.

You know what I also hate? People going just under the speed limit when there's no other traffic (besides me) and the weather and lighting is ideal, and there are no signs of police speed traps anywhere nearby...oh, and when we're on one of the many, many curvy two-lane roads on this island. Is it really so scary to go 3 miles an hour faster?

You know what I hate most when driving? People who weave between lanes at high speeds without signalling, just to go a little faster between points A and B, but, of course, causing everyone else to have to slow down to avoid crashing into them. The worst ones are the people in expensive, shiny cars.

You know what I hate that doesn't have to do with driving? People using 'standard' english pronunciation of vowels in obviously non-english words. As somebody going into linguistics, with some anthropology and history background, this strikes me as really arrogant. Yes, I know they do the same thing in other languages, but that doesn't make it right.

And that gets to another point; the influence of French on English irritates me. Old English was a great language, with very few 'ifs, ands, or buts' about pronunciation and grammar. Unfortunately, those rat-bastard Normans proceeded to make the language thoroughly complicated by failing to reconcile germanic and latinate grammar. 'To boldly go' is only wrong in latin!

 

[Perun]

People who drop by for a visit unanounced. I like my privacy. I hate when I have to drop what I'm doing in order to entertain a sudden guest. Even worse is when people drop for a visit, unanounced, at inproper times, like before 11 am, or between 2 and 5 pm, or after 9 pm.

People who won't take no for an answer. If you ask me to a party, and I say no, asking me a hundred times won't change my opinion. It'll just make me angry.

Willfuly stupid people, that is those people who have the required barin power to actually think, but won't. Because they have their idea on how the world works, and no matter what you say or what proofs you offer, they won't accept it.

People who talk to you and don't listen what you say to them.

People who insist on bodily contact during conversation, and people standing too close to me.

Like someone other said, people who think they're experts in a field they have no connections to. Don't talk to me about fishing problems if you can't tell purse seine nets and trawling nets apart.

Members of certain religious groups who come to my door and offer their views on the universe. Door stickers that say "Sects, stop! We're catholics and don't need your pamphlets" or somesuch. Especially if they do it before 11 am, between 2 and 5 pm.

Etc, etc, etc...

 

[ssampier]

Okay ... I hope that answers your question somewhat. Like I said, it's not an easy thing to articulate.

Sort-of. I can be quite ... slow... somedays so you don't take it too personally.

As for my lesson for the day:

get out of (big?) person's way with gun and bag of money.

My own experience with same was in Vegas. I was in a large crowd of people. I was waiting patiently. We were yelled by security guards moving a large locked cart (don't know the term) containing casino chips. People scurried away like ants.

 

[ssampier]

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Members of certain religious groups who come to my door and offer their views on the universe. Door stickers that say "Sects, stop! We're catholics and don't need your pamphlets" or somesuch. Especially if they do it before 11 am, between 2 and 5 pm.

Etc, etc, etc...

Hi, Perun, I'm ssampier from Utah and I see that every day. They call them missionaries. Not that I condone it, though. I've learned to live with it.

I agree with everything else, except what's special between 2 pm and 5 pm? That's what I usually visit someone. Then I'll try to slip out before dinner

 

[Perun]

Hi, Perun, I'm ssampier from Utah and I see that every day. They call them missionaries. Not that I condone it, though. I've learned to live with it.

I agree with everything else, except what's special between 2 pm and 5 pm? That's what I usually visit someone. Then I'll try to slip out before dinner

Way back when, working hours here in most companies were from 6 am til 2 pm, so 2-5 pm was time reserved for having the main meal of the day (supper? lunch? that always confuses me...) and rest. A siesta, if you will.

Even today, when most people work 9-5, the time between 2 and 4 pm is a sort of "quiet time" in apartment buildings, you're not supposed to make loud noises. It's not a law, just a guideline and common courtesy, I guess.

As for the missionaries (I didn't mention which, because of the no religion policy), as long as they don't bother me at home, I'm fine with them. There's another religious minority whose members don't bother you at home. They hand pamphlets out in the street. It's okay, really, because I can just take the pamphlet, and toss it in the bin along the way.

Regards.