(ranting) request for group help

Harmon

First Post
Bit long in the ranting, positive input requested-

A few months back my wife and our GM had a bit of a falling out over a plot line that involved one of her characters. The plot line was ended prematurely, my wife stopped playing a character she loved and our GM had a…. not so happy experience by ending much of what he had set up in the campaign (long story), needless to say there has been some tension between them.

Its my belief that had my wife been any other player then my wife she would have been asked to not return to his campaigns (the other GM might feel obligated to keep her included due to the fact that I am the only other GM and cutting her might cut me from the group and that would leave him with two players).

In any case (enough history) she made up a new character- a former pirate whom was chosen by Trithereon. Her father was a (I lack the line of thought right now) pirate working unofficially for the region of Greyhawk out of the port of Safeton. The authorities captured them (him and his crew) and he was falsely accused of crimes he did not commit, he made a deal to free his crew and sacrificed himself. Shortly after his death she was chosen by Trithereon.

(I am trying to get to my question here- please, stay with me.)

She spent much of her early years (she started as a Rogue and has followed the Clerical path for 8 more levels) teaching peasants how to defend themselves and gaining retribution for those wronged, all the while seeking to discover how to clear her father’s name. She met one member of our party and will be joining the group the next time we play the campaign.

A few points here- the Wild Coast is a slavers area, and Trithereon is a god of individuality and liberty (as pointed out in Complete Divine), she is from Safeton on the Wild Coast. My wife has made a number of points to the GM and another Player that she devotes herself to Self Defense and Retribution (which are two of the things he’s the god of from Greyhawk Gazetteer- the book we had when we started making the character).

When Complete Divine came out my wife gravitated towards the Summoning Domain (half the characters Feats are Summoner feats) and Protection (as defined in the Gazetteer).

Now she (my wife) seems to be catching some static from one of the Players in our group and the GM that she needs to play the entire Portfolio from the Complete Divine and seemingly ignore much of the Gazetteer (the GM is being quite open on the Domains and very kind in that respect). All this tells me that her character should be battling the government of the Wild Coast to free slaves and such, while all my wife wishes to do is play a Summoner, have fun and not be bogged down with politics.

Some of what the GM says is quite true, my wife has slacked off recently in her role playing, her characters seem to have an inconsistent personality and she seems to lack interest in that which got her into gaming in the first place- role playing and investigation campaigns (she use to love the mysteries now she does not).

My questions as you can see are many and basically break down to- “how should this be handled?”

My wife is quite busy with work, she has had a year and a half of health problems related to a surgery she has had, work is a bear as she has been given quite a bit more responsibility then she’s willing to take, and seems more fragile or rather less then thick skinned to comments made at the gaming table.

The GM is a good friend and a great GM, thou tends to use a lot of what I call Red Fish, and such in his mysteries.

They seem to get along well personality wise (my wife has made a number of comments that lead me to believe she thinks him a close friend), and I can see that many of the problems are related to GMing style vs. desired play.

I fear what a complete falling out will bring and I would like some thoughts on how to best handle this.
 

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Tell your wife that you can see that she is no longer enoying the game, even to the expense of the fun of the other players and that you and she will be quitting the game until such a time as that might be changed.
 

Harmon said:
Her father was a (I lack the line of thought right now) pirate working unofficially for the region of Greyhawk out of the port of Safeton.

btw, Privateer?
 


She's your wife, talk to her about it.

You know her better than anyone and so would know how to approach asking her what is happening. Just find out if she's enjoying the game, if not does she wish to leave it, and be open about "what if you leave, do you expect me to go too".

If this open conversation doesn't get you a solution then I personally don't know what will - its the way my wife and I get things sorted out (and there have been RPG/Gaming situations that we've had to sort out).
 

I don't know, Mark...

I guess it's ultimately up to the wife, I suppose.

I think the fundamental question here is - does she enjoy it, and does the GM enjoy it? But, even more fundamental to that is - it's just a game first and foremost. So, real-life politics, if she shows up every week (or whatever schedule you use) and play the character, and generally aren't obnoxious to the game, or the other players, they should be a welcome addition.

This might be a different thread if the wife was a bore, and everyone at the table hated her, but that doesn't sound like the case. Instead, it sounds (to me at least) that the DM has some unrealistic expectations of what he expects of her character. I would agree that it sounds like she made the character with some lofty role-playing goals, and now she isn't really holding up her end of the bargain.

The other thing you have to consider is to not let this get in the way of your friendship with the GM. If you generally like the guy, and it sounds like you do, then just work it out with him.

All of this could be solved by just picking up the phone and talking to the GM.
 

dvvega said:
She's your wife, talk to her about it.

You know her better than anyone and so would know how to approach asking her what is happening. Just find out if she's enjoying the game, if not does she wish to leave it, and be open about "what if you leave, do you expect me to go too".

If this open conversation doesn't get you a solution then I personally don't know what will - its the way my wife and I get things sorted out (and there have been RPG/Gaming situations that we've had to sort out).

We talk about it usually on Sunday (we game Saturdays).

She would rather work thru the problems i.e. continue to game. As its her release from the stresses of life. She's made mention a few times that the combat appeals more to her now then the role playing, yet our GM is role playing driven in the long term (many years to get to the bottom of many campaigns).
 

dvvega said:
...and be open about "what if you leave, do you expect me to go too".

I disagree. That shouldn't even be a question. If she wishes to volunteeer that she, alone, will take a break, that's one thing. But under the circumstances, you should probably just assume that if she is going to take a break from gaming, so should you. Besides, it will likely be better for the relationship if you continue to spend your "shared activity time" together rather than to lessen that time together. If she is having some sort of emotional crisis after all she has been through over this last period of your lives, she probably needs to know and feel that she has your unconditional support no matter what...especially in regard to a game, for crying out loud.
 

I gotta side with Mark on that. I can only imagine the nasty fights that could result if Harmon continued to play, while his wife stayed home. Bad news that...
 

die_kluge said:
I guess it's ultimately up to the wife, I suppose.

You are very right. As I mentioned she wants to continue to game, and would like there not to be a problem, but the fact seems to be that there is and she's not that great of a communicator outside of me (I have known her close to twenty years).

die_kluge said:
I think the fundamental question here is - does she enjoy it, and does the GM enjoy it? But, even more fundamental to that is - it's just a game first and foremost. So, real-life politics, if she shows up every week (or whatever schedule you use) and play the character, and generally aren't obnoxious to the game, or the other players, they should be a welcome addition.

Ya she does enjoy the gaming about 50% of the time, and she has only had a few complaints about how things have been done to her character, meaning that even when she had a true reason to complain she still had a fairly good time.


die_kluge said:
The other thing you have to consider is to not let this get in the way of your friendship with the GM. If you generally like the guy, and it sounds like you do, then just work it out with him.

Kinda concerned about this getting in the way of my friendship with the GM myself. He's a good person, she knows that and she likes him, as do I (I consider him one of my greatest friends).

die_kluge said:
All of this could be solved by just picking up the phone and talking to the GM.

More phone calls have been made regarding this subject then I care to mention, problem seems to be that nothing seems to be getting solved. I mean he's doing a good job of being pretty neutral at the table, I have seen few cases where he's "picked on" her character, but the whole thing was the plot that dropped her first character and the fact that her replacement is being placed in some different light then what she understood at the time the character was being made (she saw the character as A and the other Player and the GM saw it as G), compound that with the fact that she's having some role playing issues and it just seems to snow ball.
 

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