Rate Kill Bill

[DanMcS]

I disliked it for the same reason I dislike most anime I've seen; toilet paper thin plot, wooden characters, bad scripting and dialogue and more about an esoteric style that requires you to be a Japanophile anime fanboy to really appreciate.

Did you just come up with this sentence and think it was particularly clever? Because you've repeated it in a couple threads now. Though I do think there needs to be a more handy, derogatory term for anime fanboys. "It's from Japan! It has to be good!" Bah.

 

[Desdichado]

I used a very similar phrase in my other review of the movie. Since there are two threads about the same topic and my opinion of the movie is the same in both threads...

Anyway, my point isn't to insult anime fans, simply to point out that the style is the same as an anime movie. I don't particularly like anime, so naturally, I didn't particularly like Kill Bill.

And I'm not sure what you mean with the "It's from Japan! It has to be good!" sentence. I certainly know people that say essentially that same thing an awful lot in arenas as varied as anime, video games, stereos and cars.

 

[DanMcS]

That was meant to be mocking the fanboys. The whole post came off as snarkier than I meant it, I was amused by seeing the same thing from you twice in short order, almost word for word.

 

[Desdichado]

OK. I couldn't tell for sure if you were agreeing with me, or if you were an anime fanboy taking umbrage to my posts!

 

[jdavis]

I gave it a three. This was nothing more than an anime movie except with real actors and a cheesy spaghetti western soundtrack. Hardly innovative or unique.

I disliked it for the same reason I dislike most anime I've seen; toilet paper thin plot, wooden characters, bad scripting and dialogue and more about an esoteric style that requires you to be a Japanophile anime fanboy to really appreciate.

I don't get the anime thing, even the anime in the movie didn't remind me of anime. The whole thing reminded me of the crappy 70's action flicks from Japan and Hong Kong that I grew up watching, (which is what he was trying to emulate). I find the paper thin plot and wooden characters comment funny because that's exactly how it was written to be, those were intentional throwbacks to 70's action movies, that was the whole point of the movie (I didn't see where I needed to know all that much about Japan to follow it either). Go snag any old Kung Fu movie from the 70's, they are about the same. I'm suprised he didn't intentionally throw the dub track off to make it more like those movies.

 

[Welverin]

I'm supprised he didn't intentionally through the dub track off to make it more like those movies.

DVD?

I've noticed in some of Jackie Chan's more recent movies that have been released over here that even when it's clear the actors were speaking English that eveything was still out of sunc.

 

[barsoomcore]

DVD?

I've noticed in some of Jackie Chan's more recent movies that have been released over here that even when it's clear the actors were speaking English that eveything was still out of sunc.

That's because ALL Hong Kong movies are ALWAYS out of sync. Most HK movies are shot MOS (Mit Out Sound, meaning Without Sound) and then audio (dialog, sound effects, everything) is added later. It's immensely cheaper, especially if you don't care too much about making everything match up perfectly.

But yeah, even when they're speaking CHINESE those movies are out of sync.

Part of the fun, my friend.

 

[jdavis]

DVD?

I've noticed in some of Jackie Chan's more recent movies that have been released over here that even when it's clear the actors were speaking English that eveything was still out of sunc.

Man I botched that sentence pretty bad didn't I? I apologise for my poor grammer skills.

Poor dubbing is a trademark of Hong Kong films, I expect them to not match up, if they did it would seem something was wrong.

 

[ShinHakkaider]

Go snag any old Kung Fu movie from the 70's, they are about the same. I'm suprised he didn't intentionally throw the dub track off to make it more like those movies.

Heh.

It's in Vol 2 in the chapter called the Cruel Tutelege of Pai-Mei. Pai-Mei (white eyebrow) is the old chinese chap who teaches the Bride kung Fu. He's the the one in the trailer who stands on the blade of the Bride's sword, backflips off of it and kicks her in the face. Whenever Pai Mei speaks it's in improperly dubbed english.

 

[ShinHakkaider]

A while back someone posted the results of all the movie polls over the summer, and IIRC X2 had the highest rating. Judging from the posts in the other thread, it appears Kill Bill was won the hearts of even more ENWorlders. So let's have a count...

I give it a 3, but I'll be surprised if even two other people rate it lower than an 8.

I gave it an 8.

It was exactly what I was expecting it to be, on ode to 70's revenge films, the kind of films that I grew up watching. This movie would have gotten a higher rating but it's only half a film, but a very entertaining half.