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Rate Kill Bill

Rate Kill Bill

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    Votes: 7 5.8%
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    Votes: 2 1.7%
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    Votes: 5 4.1%
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    Votes: 2 1.7%
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    Votes: 4 3.3%
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    Votes: 5 4.1%
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    Votes: 13 10.7%
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    Votes: 29 24.0%
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    Votes: 34 28.1%
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    Votes: 20 16.5%


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Pants said:
I think he's talking about the lady with the phone, not Gogo. Remember she
lost her arm.
;)
mm, You mean the half-french, half japanese woman? Eh. She was alright. But I'd still think Gogo is better. ;)
 

Nightfall said:
mm, You mean the half-french, half japanese woman? Eh. She was alright. But I'd still think Gogo is better. ;)
Gogo was friggen' creepy.
'Now I have penetrated you.' *shudder*
 

Kill Bill is grim attitude with style. I suppose that there is a bias there from being an "Anime Fanboy". But only a few anime though, can reach the grimness and the intensity of Kill Bill. The animated part was well done too, comparable to Cowboy Bebop's fight scenes (which are the best in the biz, IMO).

The retro-tunes rocked, too.

I didn't really bother analyzing it for content or depth mainly bec. it was pretty obvious that those were not the point. I guess that I might be just enthralled at looking at a gritty battle where you actually see how the goons are killed and the bloody remnants of a battlefield. The movie reminds me somewhat of Kurosawa's Seven Samurai and Yojimbo. Fast and bloody sword action, delimbing included.

I love kick ass combat scenes and this movie has the one of the best I've ever seen. You can really feel that the hits connect, especially with the gore. I won't pretend that I'm deep and looking for the artistic whatever of the movie because I'm obviously a shallow fanboy :) . I gave it a 10. Its good, dirty fun.

Oh yeah, Gogo is HOT. Pretty and deadly? She's got my vote for kewlest character with CE tendencies.
 


jdavis said:
I'd give Cabin Fever a 2 out of 10 if anyone cares to know.

Cabin Fever was funny. It mocked its genre pretty well. I'd give it a 5.

Kill Bill also mocks its genre, but does a superlative job (and is better in its own right). Kill Bill gets a 9.

-- N
 


Gogo was played by Japanese actress Chiaki Kuriyama, so of course her Japanese was perfect.

I was actually referring to the half-French/Japanese woman. Her Japanese was really good. Perhaps she was raised in Japan or at least spent many years there.
 

That's kind of who I thought you meant after I thought about dragonblade.


(Btw yeah Gogo's nuts and scary. But that's what I like in a woman. An element of unpredictability. ;) )
 

Dragonblade said:
I gave it a six. The music and retro atmosphere was great. It had that distinctive Tarantino style and had a nice hard edge to the story.

However, I'm sick to death of wire-fu. I'm also sick of Hollywood actor types trying to do martial arts or sword fighting. They don't look or move naturally at all and the fights are so unrealistic and overchoreographed it drives me nuts.



I also hate it when American actors who can't speak Japanese to save their life are portrayed as supposedly fluent in it. Its painful to listen to them.

I also don't like Lucy Liu. I don't think she is attractive at all and don't buy her as a Yakuza boss.
But see that was sort of the point of the whole movie, it wasn't supposed to look like a real fight it was supposed to look like a over the top movie fight from a old action movie, if the fight scenes were in any way realistic then it would of looked really silly, it's the flash and the glitz and the jumping around like a insane monkey that people want to see, real martial arts looks pretty poor in movies and the sword fighting scene would of ended with somebody running up behind Uma and sticking a sword in her 30 seconds into it. Not to mention the fact that this movie was meant to look like a bad 70's movie, there is a good chance they intentionally went way way overboard with it.

Going into this movie and saying that any thing about it wasn't realistic enough really misses the point here, it's supposed to be in the movie world not the real world, it's supposed to be corney and goofy, they intentionally left mistakes and plot loopholes in the fim because that's how the films this was taken from were. As I've said before they should of dubbed it with bad voices and out of sync with the movie, them speaking poor Japanese added to the whole effect for me. The fact that the sword fight was so over the top and unreal was also a big part of the fun.

All the stuff you didn't like is stuff they did intentionally to make the movie stylistically like a bad 70's movie. Lucy Liu's character was a Chinese-American-Japanese army brat turned assassin who took over the whole nationwide Yakuza with sword fighting high school students, I don't think you were supposed to "buy" her as a real world Yakuza boss. They belonged to the "DiVAS" assasination squad and were code-named after snakes, Daryl Hannah's code name was "California Mountain Snake", what kind of assassin would call themselves California Mountain Snake? Vivica Fox's character was mad she didn't get to be called "Black Mamba". Have I mentioned they used a old Godzilla set yet? The movie was supposed to be silly and unrealistic, that was the whole point.

Much better to find a trained and experienced martial artist and teach them to act, IMO.
Acting is a talent, it is much much harder to train a decent actor than a decent martial artist. Just look at the caliber of martal artist/actors out there (Chuck Norris isn't winning many Oscars). It's real hard to teach personal charisma and you will never be able to train somebody to have the looks of a Swedish model. Besides there is very little in common between real martial arts and movie martial arts, one is meant for self defence and one is meant to look cool on a movie screen.

(By the way Lucy Liu practices Kali-Eskrima stick fighting, so she actually does have some real martial arts training, she also has a degree in Chinese Language and Culture so I bet her Chinese is pretty fluent at least.)
 

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