Rate Spider-Man 2 [No Spoilers]

[barsoomcore]

Are you saying, "finally" as in "finally Sam himself has made a big budget film without the committee" or "finally someone has made a big budget film without the committee"?

The former. I don't think Sam has ever quite (until now) lived up to the promise of The Evil Dead. I think it's taken him this long to figure out how to focus that manic vision through the lens of studio production.

A big-budget film that feels personal is certainly a rare bird, but not entirely unknown. It's those few appearances that keep me coming back to the theatre...

 

[Kai Lord]

The former. I don't think Sam has ever quite (until now) lived up to the promise of The Evil Dead. I think it's taken him this long to figure out how to focus that manic vision through the lens of studio production.

I'm curious as to what you thought Sam did specifically in Spidey 2 that he didn't in Spidey 1, as far as delivering on the "promise."

 

[nHammer]

I rated the movie an 8.

7.9 for the action and fight scenes. .1 for the script writing.

Why do these movies always feel a need to reveal a hero's secret ID? I'm tired of it.

I'm also tired of the villian dying at the end. It made sense in the first movie...not in this one.

It would be so nice if Hollywood would come up with an original superhero movie script. Although I will say Spidey 2 was a hundred times better than Spidey 1.

 

[Vigilance]

Doctor Octopus did NOT die. Not by comic book standards especially. Did we see a body? Was that body autopsied? Brain removed? Heart in a jear?

Even THEN in a comic book there can be a come back, but sinking into the water with a big fusion bomb blowing up on top of you is not NEARLY enough to qualify as "death" in a supers context

And to address your other question- "why MJ finds out his secret ID"... in this case its because it happened that way in the comics. It is 100% canon. She knows in the regular universe, she knows in the Ultimate universe.

Granted it took a lot longer for her to find out in the standard Marvel U, but movies move (pun intended) at a faster pace than serialized comics, which must draw things out forever.

Also, this telling of Spider man is more of an Ultimate U telling anyway, and in the Ultimate U she knows right off the bat.

Chuck

 

[WayneLigon]

A perfect 10. Some of the speeches about heroism are just.. tear-jerking. The various plot twists were a complete surprise to me, and made the movie just that much better. It has the best superhero fight scene I've ever seen, and one of the best 'saves' as well.

 

[Mog Elffoe]

Actually, it's been established in regular Marvel continuity that Mary Jane ALWAYS knew that Peter was Spider-Man, even before they'd ever met.

I love that issue of Amazing Spider-Man where the Puma tracks Spidey down by scent only, bursts into his apartment where they have a big brawl and all the while Mary Jane is on the other side of the door, beating on it, trying to get Peter to open it because she's so worried about him. When she finally does see him again she tells him that she's tired of his excuses and lets him in on the fact that she has always known that he was Spider-Man. Geez, when was that? 1986? Even earlier? Later, in Untold Tales of Spider-Man, Kurt Busiek details exactly when MJ learned Peter's secret--I think it was the same night that Uncle Ben was killed that she saw Spider-Man crawling out of Peter's bedroom next door and she put two and two together, but it's been quite some time since I've read either comics.

 

[Umbran]

P.S. there is nothing after the credits, so no need to wait.

Hey! If you worked as third Best Boy, or the Key Grip's second assisstant twice removed, you'd want someone to stay and watch the credits.

A movie is a big undertaking. Lots of people do deserve a little bit of credit, but they don't get it if you don't sit still for an extra couple of minutes.

 

[WizarDru]

Wow, was that amazing. One of the best superhero movies EVAR.

Amusing note: one of the negative reviews I've seen claimed that Peter giving up being Spidey was a rip-off of Superman 2, which is made even more amusing, since a good chunk of the plot "Spiderman No More", the trash can, the selling of the costume to the bugle and subsequent stealing of it back all came from Spiderman #50....in 1967.

 

[MarauderX]

IMO, it was good, but I still like Chronicles of Riddick better. The depth of the writing seemed to be lacking, and there were a few things left unexplained but the springboard for Spiderman 3 was added. Everything was done as clear-cut motivations, and I guess I like a movie with a little less trustworthyness to the character. The fight scenes were awesome, even impressed my wife who normally calls them boring.

 

[nHammer]

Doctor Octopus did NOT die. Not by comic book standards especially. Did we see a body? Was that body autopsied? Brain removed? Heart in a jear?

Even THEN in a comic book there can be a come back, but sinking into the water with a big fusion bomb blowing up on top of you is not NEARLY enough to qualify as "death" in a supers context

And to address your other question- "why MJ finds out his secret ID"... in this case its because it happened that way in the comics. It is 100% canon. She knows in the regular universe, she knows in the Ultimate universe.

Granted it took a lot longer for her to find out in the standard Marvel U, but movies move (pun intended) at a faster pace than serialized comics, which must draw things out forever.

Also, this telling of Spider man is more of an Ultimate U telling anyway, and in the Ultimate U she knows right off the bat.

Chuck

So instead of doing something even a little original, they were lazy and just rewrote what has been done in the comics.

I did think the movie kicked ass action wise, but the was nothing original or interesting about the story.

And please don't mention Marvel's Ultimate comics, they are proof that Marvel lacks in original ideas.