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Man, it was one of the absolute worst films I've seen. The huge number of giant plot holes were utterly ridiculous. The fact that they can't even decide what year the movie takes place in (referenced early on as 2019, then later as 2050-something).
Scarlett Johansson, who I love, could have been replaced by CGI in the film without making a difference. The action scenes were incredibly implausible and went ON and ON and ON and ON. I mean,
just like in Bad Boys II, more or less, bu then they did it again... and then they did it again. That part of the sequence took like 6 minutes. Yawn, wake me when you do something different, even something interesting.
And the product placement. Oh. My. God. I couldn't believe how awful it was. Gotta love that "MSN Search" pseudo phone booth bullcrud. And that shot where they set a bottle of AquaFina down in the middle of a tray between two drinks, filling the entire screen, never to be seen again. Until Tom drinks another bottle of it later. Really, seriously, I've never seen such blatant and horrible product placement. And that after being subjected to 10 minutes of tv commercials before the trailers.
*Blurgh*. Sorry, couldn't hold it in. Only in Josie and the Pussycats have I seen such blatant placement, and in the latter film, it was a parody, designed to point out how incredibly awful it is (they didn't get paid a penny for any placement in JatP)..
And the technology, oy vey! Flying scooters (with Star Wars vibrating thrum sound effects, no less) vs. cars that look like next year's models (and probably are, for additional product placement). Incredibly high-tech
and the most pathetic of boiler rooms.
And the repeated use of incredibly ham-handed deus ex machinas. I mean, at one point the protagonists are about to
for sure, no doubt about it, until the director and writer just go, "Nope, that's not how that ends, they're fine, poof." 7th graders write better storylines than that.
Man, I was expecting a good film. Instead I got crap. So disappointing.
Oh, and here's a question for those who have seen it:
? HUGE plot hole.
Blech. It only got a couple of stars more than the zero it otherwise deserved due to me liking most of the actors.
Wow did I ever dislike this movie. ("Tell us how you really feel.") Don't see it. Don't rent it. Don't support further crappy sci-fi.
Scarlett Johansson, who I love, could have been replaced by CGI in the film without making a difference. The action scenes were incredibly implausible and went ON and ON and ON and ON. I mean,
ok, so they pushed some train wheels off the back of a truck and wrecked some SUVs,
And the product placement. Oh. My. God. I couldn't believe how awful it was. Gotta love that "MSN Search" pseudo phone booth bullcrud. And that shot where they set a bottle of AquaFina down in the middle of a tray between two drinks, filling the entire screen, never to be seen again. Until Tom drinks another bottle of it later. Really, seriously, I've never seen such blatant and horrible product placement. And that after being subjected to 10 minutes of tv commercials before the trailers.
*Blurgh*. Sorry, couldn't hold it in. Only in Josie and the Pussycats have I seen such blatant placement, and in the latter film, it was a parody, designed to point out how incredibly awful it is (they didn't get paid a penny for any placement in JatP)..
And the technology, oy vey! Flying scooters (with Star Wars vibrating thrum sound effects, no less) vs. cars that look like next year's models (and probably are, for additional product placement). Incredibly high-tech
full-formed human cloning
And the repeated use of incredibly ham-handed deus ex machinas. I mean, at one point the protagonists are about to
fall to their deaths,
Man, I was expecting a good film. Instead I got crap. So disappointing.
Oh, and here's a question for those who have seen it:
How did the clone played by Ewan dream about that boat and know its name
Blech. It only got a couple of stars more than the zero it otherwise deserved due to me liking most of the actors.
Wow did I ever dislike this movie. ("Tell us how you really feel.") Don't see it. Don't rent it. Don't support further crappy sci-fi.
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wingsandsword
Legend
Given that it's a remake of The Clonus Horror (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078062/combined) a 1979 stinker that even got the MST3k treatment (9th season), you knew this couldn't be good. I went in with low expectations, and got was I was asking for, a stock-issue sci-fi "thriller" with a by-the-numbers plot and almost boilerplate writing. The DVD will be in the bargain bins within a year. I got the impression, especially from some vapid media coverage of the movie, that this was rushed out because of the stem-cell controversy and the idea of cloning fully-grown and intact people for spare parts was vaguely connected to the idea of creating tissue cultures, so the producers were making a lame attempt at relevancy.
The product placements were just awful, really. Why is it in the future, everybody uses the same brands we have now (kinda like Minority Report)? It just makes the movie look dated so easily a few years down the line, and breaks the illusion when you realize that this shot has been just an advertisment (that you paid a lot of money for the honor of seeing)
The product placements were just awful, really. Why is it in the future, everybody uses the same brands we have now (kinda like Minority Report)? It just makes the movie look dated so easily a few years down the line, and breaks the illusion when you realize that this shot has been just an advertisment (that you paid a lot of money for the honor of seeing)
demiurge1138
Inventor of Super-Toast
Here's the thing: it's not even really a remake. It's an unabashed ripoff of The Clonus Horror. No credit to the original is given, and the writer/director of the original is even preparing a lawsuit.
Demiurge out.
Demiurge out.
trancejeremy
Adventurer
Yeah, but given how it's a Michael Bay movie, doesn't it thus qualify as a parody, and thus okay to rip off other movies? Like Scary Movie and Scream, or Scary Movie 3 and Signs and 8 Mile and the Ring.
Joshua Randall
Legend
Was it a good movie? No.
Did it keep me mildly entertained for a couple of hours? Yes.
Hence, I rated it a 5.
Fast Learner: some of the plot holes you point out aren't really. Regarding the year the movie takes place in, I believe it is 2090 (you may have mis-heard as 2019). So the later reference to
2050 is reasonable.
And why do people object to the
? Isn't that the whole point of the movie? Either you suspend your disbelief, or you don't.
As for the
I agree there were some plot holes, but I was willing to overlook them.
Did it keep me mildly entertained for a couple of hours? Yes.
Hence, I rated it a 5.
Fast Learner: some of the plot holes you point out aren't really. Regarding the year the movie takes place in, I believe it is 2090 (you may have mis-heard as 2019). So the later reference to
The Anti-Cloning Law of
And why do people object to the
fully developed clones
As for the
dream/memory that Lincoln Six Echo (Ewan McGregor) has about the ship and the word renovatio, this is answered later in the movie when the results of his "synaptic scan" (or whatever) become available. Apparently the clones were somehow inheriting memories from their hosts (a common, if implausible, sci-fi trope).
I agree there were some plot holes, but I was willing to overlook them.
Fast Learner
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I'll grant the 2090, that makes perfect sense. The 2010 (at the latest) cars being driven around in 2090 makes no sense, especially alongside the spederbikes, though, and the technological mish-mash was infuriating. I guess you shouldn't be an science fiction fan and see it. Which I can appreciate.
On the
thing, though, what they said was that
, that that was the mistake, the new problem. I'm nearly certain that they, at best, implied your suggestion, but never said it.
And just for the record, though I doubt it matters, I know that I, personally, don't object to the
. I agree that it was the premise of the movie, and while such a thing seems unlikely as far as we understand science now, it doesn't mean it's impossible.
On the
memories
the clones ahd developed curiosity
And just for the record, though I doubt it matters, I know that I, personally, don't object to the
fully-formed adult clones
Mad Hatter
First Post
Fast Learner said:
Why? People still use VHS alongside DVD's and VHS tech is old. People still ride bikes despite cars and treadmills. Typewriters are still in use despite the fact that computers make them obsolete. It's not so hard to say that there are a few relics with modern vehicles predominately in use.
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