re: rich baker's dark sun chat on 12/14

[Wik]

My god. I actually sort of like how they did defiling. And I figured they were going to make Thri-Kreen a bit weaker than 2e's kreen anyway... though I expected Kreen to have a bite as a minor action attack (sort of like Dragonborn's breath weapon) that can be improved through feats.

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

-What about elemental clerics? Are they going to be absent, or will they be from PH 4 or whenever they come out with the Elemental power source?

In the interview with James Wyatt, I believe it was mentioned that Shamans could function in the role of 2e elemental clerics.

 

[Kinneus]

So. Dang. Excited.

 

[Dragonhelm]

Thri kreen nerfage? Yes, with weak itty-bitty arms that cannot wield weapons and bite removed.

At some point in the past, they kinda nerfed the two arms anyway. Looks like some of the coolness of the thri-kreen will be represented with a racial paragon path.

Defiling vs. preserving? All arcane are default preservers with a defiling at-will ability useable only on daily powers.

I'm glad it isn't taint.

Spelljammer 4e? Rumblings . . . maybe . . .

Woo-hoo!

Now, if we could get some confirmation on Dragonlance.

 

[hailstop]

In the interview with James Wyatt, I believe it was mentioned that Shamans could function in the role of 2e elemental clerics.

That's what I was thinking. Bear Spirit = Earth Element.

 

[Keefe the Thief]

Very interesting - i really think that the 4e rules could be the best ever for playing DS. I´d just reread my old box and stuff like "at level 6 you know how to build siege equipment" gave me the willies. And that defiling table...

I just hope stuff like water / metal scarcity, survival etc. is all reflected in the CS. And please, let them drop the "one psionic talent for everybody" stuff.

 

[vagabundo]

I always liked that Druids could smell a defiler - and defilers could go to druids for atonement. I wonder if that will be in; it isn't hard to implement more RP issues with defiling.

 

[Hellzon]

Divine?Boom, gone. These are not the leaders you are looking for. Go look at warlords, bards, and ardents. (unsaid . . . and shamans?)
Spelljammer 4e? Rumblings . . . maybe . . .

Three is a magic number, he probably just picked the first he came up with. He also left out the Artificer, but there might be good reason for that (steampunk Athas probably isn't the default).
Yay for Spelljammer!

And please, let them drop the "one psionic talent for everybody" stuff.

You'd figure just encouraging multiclassing to psion/ardent/battlemind would go a long way without giving everyone a free power.

 

[Keefe the Thief]

Actually i don´t hate the idea that there is a CS where everybody and their uncle have some sort of special power. I just don´t like the "here, this existing crunchy bit - which we totally didn´t design for this - let´s stick this into every character created in this world" thingy. If they design a proper spellscar-like system for giving everybody a power and making that power useful and flavorful = good.
"Everybody gets a 1st level spell with fixed CL for free" = suck.

 

[avin]

Bold decision on removing Divine.

Any word on Thri-Kreen's size?