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Zenon said:
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but what you are accusing Caliban of is exactly what you are doing.

I didn't start it at all. My first post to him was argumentative, yet friendly. He decided to behave like a jackass and bite my head off. I'm responding in kind. I don't take that kind of crap from anybody, not even him, and I apologize when I pull that kind of crap off on other people.
 

To be fair, he's right. You seem to be turning this into a slanging match.

It started out quite innocently as a query on the game rules. If we can try to keep it that way, it'd be nice.
 

Eccles said:
To be fair, he's right. You seem to be turning this into a slanging match.

No. I just don't back down when someone bites my head off. Caliban set the stage for hostility in his reply to me. If you have a problem with it, like I do, take it up with him (or just wait 20 minutes or so and it'll pass on it's own).

Of course, so long as you people keep replying to this crap, it won't ever die. Just keep that in mind. ;)
 


kreynolds said:


No. I just don't back down when someone bites my head off.

Don't start none, won't be none.

Caliban set the stage for hostility in his reply to me.

A rather revision view of things, and you are once again being a hypocrite.

You made a huge leap in your reply to me (saying I was banning scroll use for all 1st level casters) when I did absolutely nothing of the kind.

I called your reply what it was, a straw man arguement, and then you started getting personal and accusing me of "jumping to conclusions" when I very plainly had not. You did. Thus, you were a hypocrite.

Then you started complaining that I ws being mean to you, and so I called you on it.

If you don't like it, don't attack me and then try to saying "it was all a joke, really! Stop being mean to me. Wah!!"

I'm not upset, I'm just not in the mood for this type of crap, especially from you. I don't have as much time to post as I used to.
 
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KarinsDad said:
5) dcollins' find of the Caster's Shield reinforces that somatic components are required for scrolls since the Caster's Shield allows casting of a scribed spell "with no chance of arcane spell failure due to the shield".

I really don't see where it does. A caster's shield has other advantages over a normal scroll. 1/2 material costs is a biggie, its worth the extra 2,000gp by it self. Plus, you never have to dig around for that scroll of gaseous form, invisibiliity or teleport. Note that in the description of the item, 80% of the spells scribed on it are divine spells which don't have a spell failure chance anyway.


Aaron
 

Caliban said:
Don't start none, won't be none.

Uhhmmm....yeah. I didn't start it.

Caliban said:
A rather revision view of things, and you are once again being a hypocrite.

You were an ass to me. I'm being an ass to you. Nothing hypocritical in that, especially since I didn't kick off this mess.

Caliban said:
You made a huge leap in your reply to me (saying I was banning scroll use for all 1st level casters) when I did absolutely nothing of the kind.

See previous posts.

Caliban said:
I called your reply what it was, a straw man arguement, and then you started getting personal and accusing me of "jumping to conclusions" when I very plainly had not.

Yes you did. See previous posts.

Caliban said:

No. See previous posts.

Caliban said:
Thus, you were a hypocrite.

No. See previous posts.

Caliban said:
Then you started complaining that I ws being mean to you, and so I called you on it.

I didn't say you were being "mean". Show me where I said that. You can't. Why? Because I didn't say that. What I did say, however, is that you were being a jackass. There's a big difference.

Caliban said:
If you don't like it, don't attack me and then try to saying "it was all a joke, really! Stop being mean to me. Wah!!"

I didn't attack you. My first post to you was argumentative, yes, but I sure wasn't being mean to you.

Caliban said:
I'm not upset

Good. I'm not either. It shows we can be adults about this (I hope).

Caliban said:
I'm just not in the mood for this type of crap

Neither am I, and to quote you, "Don't start none, won't be none".

Caliban said:
especially from you.

What's your point here?

Caliban said:
I don't have as much time to post as I used to.

Like that's my problem? That's no excuse for your behavior.

Tell you what. I'll back off if you back off. Fair enough?
 
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Gentlemen,

At this point, who started it is irrelevant, as you've both broken the Golden Rule - do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. If you don't want the other guy to be snarky, don't rise to the challenge, ignore the slights. If you want an apology from the other guy, offer one yourself.

Honestly, guys. You're reduced to arguing about who started it? Need I tell you what that looks like? It does neither of you any honor.
 

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