Redesigning and re-branding EN World

Well, I haven't read this whole thing but I can give you some hints.

- Change the color scheme to something lighter. Dark and yellow was "cool" back in 1994. I prefer white, light gray, blue and orange. You CAN use dark background, but it is very tricky to get the professional feel with those colors. www.hardocp.com is a good example of a professional black site.
- I would suggest you to "sort of" integrate the main page with the forum, like www.asusboards.com .
- Keep the name. I like it.
- Merge some of the sections and put everything old in archives. Like "Magic", i don't care about the PHB stuff, i want to read about magic in new books.

More to come, dinner :)
 
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Here are the changes I would suggest.

1. Lighten the site. I do like current site, but I think white backgrounds with some color (red, blue or green) look best.

2. Use a slashdot format for news, you could train some moderator monkeys to approve news stories posted by user. This would allow Morrus to work on the more fun fan stuff. News stories could have sorted by topic and people could filter there news as wanted. Slashcode is free, and easy to setup.

3. The forum need work, but I have no idea what would be best to do to them.

Also, if you are a D20 publisher and not donating freely lots of money to this site then you basically suck. Almost all the D20 product I have purchased have been to news/review from this site.
 

rpghost said:


Funny you should mention that as I put together a quick prototype for Morrus during the design contest. I was just playing around (not trying to get any prize money) so it wasn't ever finished, but he has seen it. Check it out yourself and let him know some feedback (I think his main concern was that the drop down menu worked on all systems):

http://www.rpghost.com/ENWorld

James
RPG Host Networks

Do you have a license to use that menu?
 

Morrus,

Greetings and congratulations. I bet you have put a lot of thought into this. Many of your comments on previos posts, your site redesign contest and now this point out the beginning signs of burnout. Please, change the site to help foster a new direction, a direction that is closer to your personal vision and not the hybrid of the EN page and D20reviews.

I think a redesign can only help re-energize and focus the site. Just read many of the threads in the general forum, they are little more than light hearted Polls and banter. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading and participate in many of them, but there are very few threads offering serious or useful help. My suggestion is the same to many before me.

Streamline the community, too many segmented forums, clean and reorganize the site layout/tree and create something new. We do not know what your vision is which makes it difficult for us to give clear inspiring solutions.

Get rid of the press release section and any other part that is not in line with where you want to go. We have faith in your judgement and are appreciative of all your hard work. If you don't enjoy this neither will we.

thanks again.

Fro
 

I felt the need to donate a few bucks before I spoke my mind.

- Name: At least keep the address - that would be a pain for less fequent visitors. Any of the 3EN ideas wouldnt' be bad but I don't think the name is a big deal as is.

- Colours: As others have said, they are soothing. My girlfriend wonders hows I can work on computers all day, then comes home and read your site for another hour or two. I've seen a number of sites with different color schemes, tied to cookies or a login. Maybe that would satisfy those who want a change.

- Reorgazation: I think the front page could use a little tidying. I concur with the 3 links-in perspective. I do think some sort of databse back end could make you life a lot easier. Let it manage the input of text and the output of formating. Then you just run down the list and check of what to post or not. Spend more time on picking good content rather than typing and formatting. I think everyone is here for information, not style, and whatever allows for more of it is a good thing.

- Promotion/reviews: Reviews are very good. Keep them linked fromone page and go nuts. A promotion forum could work out nicely, maybe with links to the top 3 or 5 threads on the font page down in a corner. If you want a little revenue, take a small donation if they want to post covers or images.

- Forums: [tags} would be helpful, even if the structureis kept the same. I see some overlap in the Rule & House Rules forums. I wouldn't mind a big House Rules/Plots & Places/General Homebrew forum to be prominent. It might take some of the traffic out of the general discussion.
 

I've been logging on daily, or almost daily, to this site ever since I found it, back in the days when Eric was god. It's help sell more D20 gear to me than anything but that's me I'm just weak-willed;)

As a traditionalist I like ENWorld, though 3EN or 3ENWorld has possibilities. Hey let's go straight for 4EN and start the speculation now!

I think along with the 'brand name' the look of the site is as important as anything and I like the colour scheme. It seemed a bit weird when the esteemed morrus took over and we were all golden for a few weeks.

Yes the front page is far too busy and crowded and the links need organising, I'm no web-head so I believe on keeping things simple. Simple to maintain yet doing the job. Easier said than done.

There was a time when this site went out and made the news and it would be nice to see that kind of energy happening again. There are a lot of d20 publishers and this is an important nexus for d20 but this does not mean to say morrus becomes a corporate shill:D Link to press releases separately by all means. There's never enough to read on the news page!

My main problem with the news page is its just too long, it goes on and on and so do the sidebars...:confused:

I find the monthly releases colourful but not all that useful, except to make me wish some of the stuff got into the shops quicker. That brings me back to spending too much money on d20 gear...
:rolleyes:
 

[ramble]
Okay, so you finally got me, Morrus. Old-time reader of Eric's site, and I'd gone all this way without making an account on the boards or really even reading them. Curse You! *shakes fist at the heavens emotively*

Okay, so that out of the way, on to what baited me to make an account: the potential redesign of the site.

It seems to me, from your post on the main-page and from finally wading through the whole thread, that what you're especially interested in is distinguishing yourself from the marketing wing of the d20 industry. I don't have any real easy advice there. To a greater or lesser extent, all websites for someone who offers a good or service for sale are marketing, the only difference is how genuinely the website is offered independent of a desire to promote themselves. Still, knowing that means that I'm not going to spend my breath on a lot of recommendations for look and feel. If things have gotten overgrown around here, usually the layout has been fine by me.

That said, here's what I do and don't use ENworld for. The number one most useful thing you do, in my books, is keep track of what community webpages have been updated. You do them and me both a service, because I'd never have the patience to check back for months without an update, so I check here instead and can follow a link to the site that's been updated.

Slightly less useful is announcements of when a given product is actually available for sale. I really don't care about any other product announcements other than when it is actually on sale. If the publisher is working on it or sent it to the printers, it isn't worth my time to read 99 times out of 100.

I also appreciate links to reviews of products, particularly when they are from a reviewer I have some faith in.

I don't USE the boards here, but I recognize their value and wouldn't want them to go. Your Message Board roundup is about the right level of involvement for me, and I appreciate it.

In short, I'm 100% in favor of getting rid of all or nearly all product awareness information for things that aren't out yet. I understand that this would be a major paradigm shift from Eric's website which started it all, but I don't think that the community is any longer truly in the mode of eagerly anticipating a particular product (and certainly not every product out there) as it was for the initial release of 3E. At the very least, this stuff can be de-emphasized. As there is a day for message board roundups from the message board area, perhaps there would be a press releases and upcoming products section and a weekly update to the main page with items of particular interest.

Now on to the nearly irrelevant stuff that I said I'd leave alone, just because I can resist a 'me too' while I'm here:

Look and feel is generally good. I like the nostalgic color scheme and all, although some minor changes wouldn't be offensive. I'd like to add a 'me too' to a minor dislike for three columns, and also in favor of considering at least the judicial use of frames to provide an easy navigation tool.

As to names, I think that you aren't going to escape the name ENworld no matter what, and don't think that it is worth trying. The name works. If you wanted to change the logo a couple of things like that to freshen things up, a '3EN' logo could look cool and would be a nice pun/word play which would let Eric further hide his name... ;)
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And that's enough rambling and opinions from me for present.

SFG DM 12 LG (Lawful Gnomish)
 

Here's a list of some possible name/focus changes to consider, and then reject immediately in favor of keeping the name EN World. :D

Classic 2nd Edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons News - C2E AD&D News - It would not require as many daily updates.

Squirrel's d20 Nuts - Sd20 Nuts - You might have to merge with an existing site, but how could you go wrong with handing out “The Nutties” to award winners at GENCon.

Cow’s News & Notes - CN&N - Updates to the site would be done by a different person every single day.

Unofficial Charwomen Gene’s Pantheon World - UCGP World - Every message board member would also have the god like power to be a moderator. All posted messages would be run through a translator program at least twice. Think of the chaos.

Unofficial Son of a Preacher Man's Fire Pellet News - Unofficial SOAPMan's FP News - All fire pellet discussions, all the time.

The Official March 32nd d20 News & Reviews - TOM32 d20 News & Reviews - A new d20 April Fools Joke every day.

A Murder of d20 Updates/The Hidden RPG Land Shrine/The Third Edition Black Lodge - No comment can be made on these three name changes. :D
 

1) Rather the name was not changed though 3EN as has been suggested would be ok. Anything else would just make the reputation the site has disappear as no one would know what it was.

2) I have been coming to this site every day since Eric Noah's site was closed. The only thing I really do is read the news which I find very useful and will be disappointed if there is a big change there. I like being able to come here and see what is being written out there as well as the latest antics of WOTC.

3) I agree with another poster about taking out some types of news you do. The thing with having a news entry because some campaign site has a new spell is kinda silly. I have 3 campaign worlds and can't imagine having a news line on your site every time I update something (almost every day). In fact I have not even submitted 2 of the sites because I dont feel they are worthy of being looked at yet.

4) Besides the news I do use the D20 publisher guide to take a look around. This is my first post on your message boards, since it takes absolutely forever to get pages to load on the boards. Really can't stand that so never look anymore.
 

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