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I understood that the post was satire. But it seemed to me that it was a joke aimed at pointing out a problem with the rules. My reply was to indicate that I don't see any such problem with the rules. Rather, it seems to me that the stated problem arises from a loose interpretation coupled with rather unrealistic house rules. I apologize if I misunderstood your intent.


As for why I would think that someone being clamped in an angry dragon's mouth would have their movement restricted, I'm just going to have to pass on that one. I can't think of any further way to define the obvious. If you imagine the interior of a dragon's mouth as a comfortable hobbit-hole where you can rolick and play and engage in all sorts of impressive acrobatics, then by all means, give your players a saving throw.
 

Ki Ryn said:
As for why I would think that someone being clamped in an angry dragon's mouth would have their movement restricted, I'm just going to have to pass on that one. I can't think of any further way to define the obvious. If you imagine the interior of a dragon's mouth as a comfortable hobbit-hole where you can rolick and play and engage in all sorts of impressive acrobatics, then by all means, give your players a saving throw.

You might find it easier to say "I don't have a clue." as opposed to sarcastically belittling others if they don't find obvious what you seemingly cannot explain yourself.
 

kreynolds said:

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Originally posted by Ki Ryn
As for why I would think that someone being clamped in an angry dragon's mouth would have their movement restricted, I'm just going to have to pass on that one. I can't think of any further way to define the obvious. If you imagine the interior of a dragon's mouth as a comfortable hobbit-hole where you can rolick and play and engage in all sorts of impressive acrobatics, then by all means, give your players a saving throw.
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You might find it easier to say "I don't have a clue." as opposed to sarcastically belittling others if they don't find obvious what you seemingly cannot explain yourself.

In an earlier post by kreynolds
Hey, if you think that sharing a square with a comrade in a 5-foot wide corridor in the middle of combat as a fireball comes roaring at your face is still a situation in which you could duck out of the way even though it's not your turn...well...I don't think I need to say anything more on that.

hmm...... Do as I say, not as I do? :p
 


Well, just to chime in on one piece of the argument, my ranger/rogue was swallowed by a purple worm not too long ago. Naturally, my first question to the dm was, "Does it keep its dex bonus against me if I'm inside it?"

I almost finished it off with my triple-sneak attack (2 attacks plus one for off-hand) just cutting myself free!
 

the Jester said:
Naturally, my first question to the dm was, "Does it keep its dex bonus against me if I'm inside it?"

I almost finished it off with my triple-sneak attack (2 attacks plus one for off-hand) just cutting myself free!
It's unfortunate when DM's start making lenient house rules just to save player's lives. It destroys the sense of accomplishement you would have had had you genuinely survivied without such "mercy".
 

Ki Ryn said:
It's unfortunate when DM's start making lenient house rules just to save player's lives. It destroys the sense of accomplishement you would have had had you genuinely survivied without such "mercy".

More than likely, his DM really did think that he should be able to sneak attack it, since he was, after all, inside a vulnerable spot. Hell, there are vulnerable spots all around him! :) I don't know. If he was disappointed with how the battle went, no doubt he will never do that again.
 
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To Jester, KiRyn and Reynolds (btw - are you Sean K. Reynolds, or are you being literal in your signature?)

Imagine this real life example:

While walking through your garden one early saturday morning a nasty cicada killer (one of the biggest hymonoptera (bees and wasps)) known to man stings you. While attempting to fight off the poison you swat at the and get so delusional from the sting and so enraged that this little POS hurt you that you decide to bite at it. What do you know, it's in your mouth, but its not actually dead yet. Haha, your stomach acid will do the trick - right?

Imagine how dead you are going to be when the thing moving down your throat keeps stinging you, causing your esophogas to swell cutting off your breathing effectively suffocating you.

If a creature decides to swallow a still living opponent - that creature has reaped its own funeral.

Grant it the circumstances are different, but I think the swallowed rogue could deliver quite a few nasty "stings" on the way down (if he managed to survive the heat damage every round anyway).
 

Gaiden said:
Reynolds (btw - are you Sean K. Reynolds, or are you being literal in your signature?)

He's not Sean. He is so not Sean.

And I just find it funny that even with all the not sean stuff he has in his posts, he still gets asked. :D
 

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