Reign of Fire - minor spoilers
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Furn_Darkside
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Irysangel said:
You have to be kidding me...
And if you are serious, then you really didn't understand that scene- did you?
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theburningman
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Irysangel wrote:
I don't know, it seemed pretty obvious to me that it was something they had done successfully a number of times, but this time there was a screw-up. The guy that was supposed to plant the 3rd vertical was unable to, thus throwing the entire trap off.
Plus, just because a leader knows that he must put his men in danger and they may very well die, that doesn't mean he can't grieve over it. What seemed to me to 'disgust' him was the fact that they were celebrating, like they had won the war against the dragons. To Van Zant, it was a minor victory at best (since he had already killed over 200 dragons, I believe it said), plus it was tainted by the loss of men who should have made it if everything had gone off as planned.
Irysangel wrote:
I would just assume that although they are hungry, and always in danger of starvation should their food supply be, say, burned up, it would serve them better in the long run to keep their horses alive for breeding purposes and for transportation.
Irysangel wrote:
Good point. I'm not gonna touch this one.
Irysangel wrote:
Since they were Americans, from the many armories that dot the continental United States. With civilization on the verge of being wiped out, I imagine they could just help themselves to the spoils of some underground facility.
I also kind of pegged Van Zant as a former military man. Maybe not, but it seemed to fit to me (all except for the obviously not-according-to-regulations grooming and hygiene
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Irysangel wrote:
Probably the same personality types who sign up to run into skyscrapers that have had airliners smashed into them. There's always someone brave enough.
Irysangel wrote:
Again, I won't touch this one. It seemed like a plot contrivance to me too.
Irysangel wrote:
This also seemed like a plot contrivance. But it also paved the way for a sequel, I think. All it would take is for Quinn and his crew (or a group in another part of the world entirely) to discover that there was another bull (or more logically, at least dozens more) and off they go on another merry adventure.
I won't say that I didn't have problems with the film, but I felt like it was a labor of love that grew out of a very interesting idea. Unlike the D&D movie, which sucked from the get-go.
I don't know, it seemed pretty obvious to me that it was something they had done successfully a number of times, but this time there was a screw-up. The guy that was supposed to plant the 3rd vertical was unable to, thus throwing the entire trap off.
Plus, just because a leader knows that he must put his men in danger and they may very well die, that doesn't mean he can't grieve over it. What seemed to me to 'disgust' him was the fact that they were celebrating, like they had won the war against the dragons. To Van Zant, it was a minor victory at best (since he had already killed over 200 dragons, I believe it said), plus it was tainted by the loss of men who should have made it if everything had gone off as planned.
Irysangel wrote:
I would just assume that although they are hungry, and always in danger of starvation should their food supply be, say, burned up, it would serve them better in the long run to keep their horses alive for breeding purposes and for transportation.
Irysangel wrote:
Good point. I'm not gonna touch this one.
Irysangel wrote:
Since they were Americans, from the many armories that dot the continental United States. With civilization on the verge of being wiped out, I imagine they could just help themselves to the spoils of some underground facility.
I also kind of pegged Van Zant as a former military man. Maybe not, but it seemed to fit to me (all except for the obviously not-according-to-regulations grooming and hygiene
).Irysangel wrote:
Probably the same personality types who sign up to run into skyscrapers that have had airliners smashed into them. There's always someone brave enough.
Irysangel wrote:
Again, I won't touch this one. It seemed like a plot contrivance to me too.
Irysangel wrote:
This also seemed like a plot contrivance. But it also paved the way for a sequel, I think. All it would take is for Quinn and his crew (or a group in another part of the world entirely) to discover that there was another bull (or more logically, at least dozens more) and off they go on another merry adventure.
I won't say that I didn't have problems with the film, but I felt like it was a labor of love that grew out of a very interesting idea. Unlike the D&D movie, which sucked from the get-go.
theburningman
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Now that I think about it, the thing that bothered me most was the idea that the dragons had excellent day-vision and even better night-vision, but at twilight their vision goes to sh**? Does anyone know if there are any animals in real like that have this characteristic? I mean, I have trouble seeing at twilight, but I don't go practically blind.
Jeremy
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More spoilers, people who don't like them shouldn't be here. 
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You've only got a few hit points left, the dragon has a bead on you. There is no cover, and no where to go.
No question. I pick up my halberd and charge the dragon screaming my frustration and hatred of their kind and refusing to die easy.
If I ever die to a dragon, I want it to be like that. That was plain inspiring.
PS - I had nothing better to do. I enjoyed the movie just watching the fire in some of the character's eyes and enjoying the sheer balls of men with nothing left to lose against giant lizards (these aren't talking, spell casting, 1000+ year life expectancy, plotting, cunning D&D dragons, these are highly evolved marginally clever animal predators) who have little mercy except for the occasional taunt or cat and mouse game.
Though where they were getting all that high octane helicopter fuel and what they were using to power the lights down in the keep bowels after the monster melted the rest of the structure to slag escapes me. But come on, no Schwartzenegger movie is expected to explain these things.
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You've only got a few hit points left, the dragon has a bead on you. There is no cover, and no where to go.
No question. I pick up my halberd and charge the dragon screaming my frustration and hatred of their kind and refusing to die easy.
If I ever die to a dragon, I want it to be like that. That was plain inspiring.
PS - I had nothing better to do. I enjoyed the movie just watching the fire in some of the character's eyes and enjoying the sheer balls of men with nothing left to lose against giant lizards (these aren't talking, spell casting, 1000+ year life expectancy, plotting, cunning D&D dragons, these are highly evolved marginally clever animal predators) who have little mercy except for the occasional taunt or cat and mouse game.
Though where they were getting all that high octane helicopter fuel and what they were using to power the lights down in the keep bowels after the monster melted the rest of the structure to slag escapes me. But come on, no Schwartzenegger movie is expected to explain these things.
jasper
Rotten DM
great popcorn movie.
And like all popcorn movies the popcorn has more substance.
Spend $5 on the movie and 5 of the corn.
so laid off the corn but I went knowing it was going to be a B movie at the best.
Love the shots of the dragon being tickled by the 50 cal and the top of tower shot.
Great bad movie night fare. I pick up the dvd when drops below $10
And like all popcorn movies the popcorn has more substance.
Spend $5 on the movie and 5 of the corn.
so laid off the corn but I went knowing it was going to be a B movie at the best.
Love the shots of the dragon being tickled by the 50 cal and the top of tower shot.
Great bad movie night fare. I pick up the dvd when drops below $10
Quickbeam
Explorer
Here's my take:
I went into RoF expecting very little other than a lovely display of special effects and I believe this film delivers more than that. I went home quite happy (unlike some of you) for several very simple reasons...
1) I'm willing to enjoy a movie without overanalyzing every freaking detail for its realism, or lack thereof. The movie contained dragons boys and girls, how realistic did you expect the storyline to be?!? Without question, there were plot deficiencies and holes in the script, but overall the premise was cool and the film was pretty entertaining -- if you were willing to let yourself be entertained that is!!
2) The dragon effects were quite wonderful.
3) I enjoyed the unique version of how dragon's can breathe fire; why they went dormant thousands of years ago; and the amusing concept of only one bull being necessary to fertilize hundreds of eggs like salmon. Despite some contrivances in these matters, they were very clever means of handling topics that have been addressed repeatedly from other angles.
My wife and I are happy we spent the cash to watch RoF, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
I went into RoF expecting very little other than a lovely display of special effects and I believe this film delivers more than that. I went home quite happy (unlike some of you) for several very simple reasons...
1) I'm willing to enjoy a movie without overanalyzing every freaking detail for its realism, or lack thereof. The movie contained dragons boys and girls, how realistic did you expect the storyline to be?!? Without question, there were plot deficiencies and holes in the script, but overall the premise was cool and the film was pretty entertaining -- if you were willing to let yourself be entertained that is!!
2) The dragon effects were quite wonderful.
3) I enjoyed the unique version of how dragon's can breathe fire; why they went dormant thousands of years ago; and the amusing concept of only one bull being necessary to fertilize hundreds of eggs like salmon. Despite some contrivances in these matters, they were very clever means of handling topics that have been addressed repeatedly from other angles.
My wife and I are happy we spent the cash to watch RoF, no ifs, ands, or buts about it
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Quickbeam
Explorer
Berandor said:
Point well taken. As with many movies of this type/genre there are always questions of "logical coherence," but ya gotta provide a little suspension of disbelief and minimize the scrutiny to enjoy such films IMO.
If people just didn't like the story, characters, or effects then let us know. But don't shred RoF because it lacks certain plausible explanations -- I'm not sure the movie was intended to be extremely plausible, after all they used nukes and none of the living creatures seemed to be suffering from radiation poisoning or freezing in nuclear winter.
BTW Breandor, enjoy the movie when it arrives in local theaters
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