Reviving Greyhawk: A letter-writing campaign.

[jokamachi]

I'm not bitter, I just think this is a misguided effort, for the reasons I stated above.

As I said in my first post on the thread, though -- if it makes you happy, knock yerself out -- write all the letters you want.

You can say now all you want that you don't want Greyhawk to be the next Realms -- but I'm not misquoting you there. I'm not quoting you at all, I'm interpreting your call to make specific books that have analogs in the Realms, i.e. Faiths and Pantheons. Frankly, if you're saying now you don't want the detail of the Realms, I'm not sure what you want anymore. That sure seems to be what you're asking for consistently in this thread.

Of course I want further development. I stated that from the beginning, but it's not a question of all or nothing as you seem to be reading into my posts. I may not want to see it micromanaged, ala FR, but I would like to see it occur. In any case, 'overdeveloped' is a subjective term as people might never arrive at a satisfactory definition for what they consider to be overdeveloped. But don't go looking for inconsistencies in my post in an attempt to "win" this argument.

Furthermore, saying that I want specific books analogous to the Realms is putting the cart before the horse. The Realms has served as model for nothing in D&D. Faiths and Pantheons is based on an older product you may or may not remember, Gods, Demigods, and Heroes. But even then, why should that specifically conjure FR? Nearly every burgeoning setting has some sort of pantheon book anyway. It's more standard than specific.

 

[MerricB]

Faiths and Pantheons is based on an older product you may or may not remember, Gods, Demigods, and Heroes. But even then, why should that specifically conjure FR? Nearly every burgeoning setting has some sort of pantheon book anyway. It's more standard than specific.

Oh yes, Good old Supplement IV. The worst of the entire bunch, giving no information but the combat stats of the gods. And then it saying that it's not meant to be used as a Monster Manual. Right...

I'd like to see Greyhawk somewhat better supported. Not too much, but a couple of products a year would be nice (in addition to the support it already gets from Dungeon magazine). Given that the Living City campaign is putting out adventure books, it'd be nice if the LG campaign could do the same thing - although it is a different organisation.

That there is a wide gulf in the desires of Greyhawk supporters there can be no doubt, and that the designers of whatever Greyhawk material is released would have to have extremely thick skins - something that is extremely regrettable.

Jokamachi, do you ever drop by the Canonfire! site? It'd be nice if you could share some of the things you've created for Greyhawk with the rest of us.

Cheers!

 

[PatEllis15]

Hmmmm....

I am as big a Greyhawk fan as you fill find... I've tried FR, DL, DS, the old I.C.E. world, and just keep coming back.

I haven't bothered with another CS in years.

I like the fact that Greyhawk isn't fully detailed, yet there is much that "could" still be done. Baseline info on many of the countries is still not available in published form (though it now is by Living Greyhawk). And of course, "greyhawk" is but the eastern most portion of the continent.


All that said, I recognize that my beloved world will probably NOT get detailed again, because of the fractured audience that has been referenced.

The question I pose to you all, is why can DragonLance get revived with its multiple "era's", but Greyhawk not? I played in DL only during the original moduels... why has DragonLance avoided this fractured fanbase? I undestand that the new campaign books details items from the various era's... could it be that a hardcover for Greyhawk could do the same?

Taro Sarask

Pat E

 

[The Blue Elf]

The question I pose to you all, is why can DragonLance get revived with its multiple "era's", but Greyhawk not? I played in DL only during the original moduels... why has DragonLance avoided this fractured fanbase? I undestand that the new campaign books details items from the various era's... could it be that a hardcover for Greyhawk could do the same?

Taro Sarask

Pat E

Well I can anwser part of the question DragonLance has support by two websites http://www.dragonlance.com/and Dragonlance Nexus both have a big following by fans that support Dragonlance for 3rd edition.

 

[qstor]

Erik,

I think a book of LGJ articles PLUS. Would be great. Maybe River of Blood or Dragonscales at Morning Tide could go in..plus a few City articles from the LG Core Areas that Gary H. was talking about writing. I think this would be great. Or maybe another Prestige class or two. If stuff were legal for the LG campaign, players would get it as well. Keep up the great work.

Mike

 

[Joseph Elric Smith]

Erik,

I think a book of LGJ articles PLUS. Would be great. Maybe River of Blood or Dragonscales at Morning Tide could go in..plus a few City articles from the LG Core Areas that Gary H. was talking about writing. I think this would be great. Or maybe another Prestige class or two. If stuff were legal for the LG campaign, players would get it as well. Keep up the great work.

Mike

Well I think it would be nice, if when modules are retired, they bundled them together and sold them.
ken

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Tons of luck, don't see it happening but good luck.

All you need is the 1983 boxed set anyway. Check e-bay.

 

[jokamachi]

Good news that Zagyg's Castle will finally see the light of day. A fine addition to the Greyhawk canon, with or without the Wotc label.

 

[jokamachi]

For future reference, it would be helpful to know which of us have written and mailed letters to Wotc, so if you have a minute to spare, please post on this thread indictaing that you have done so.

Thanks.

Jokamachi

 

[Shoon]

The question I pose to you all, is why can DragonLance get revived with its multiple "era's", but Greyhawk not? I played in DL only during the original moduels... why has DragonLance avoided this fractured fanbase?

Point 1- DL failed in 2E. No, really, it did. Does anyone remember... the SAGA System? AFAIK, DL, as a CS, flunked in the 2E days.

Point 2- DL has a huge pocketbook line, while GH doesn't.