D&D 4E Rich Baker on his 4e Warlord

[Aage]

Actually, he said:

Emphasis mine.

Instead of being a fighter, he went with warlord. Why? Because he could gain synergy from the benefits of having a high Int in both warlord and wizard. I think he's a multiclass warlord/wizard.

Karhun began in the 3rd Edition era of Dave’s game as an illumian warblade/warmage. These days, he’s a 10th-level human warlord.

Emphasise mine
So yeah, he is multiclass, in some sort of hidden/mystic 4e way we do not yet know.. But he has no actual levels in wizard

 

[Scholar & Brutalman]

Instead of being a fighter, he went with warlord. Why? Because he could gain synergy from the benefits of having a high Int in both warlord and wizard. I think he's a multiclass warlord/wizard.

But Rich actually writes:

Karhun began in the 3rd Edition era of Dave’s game as an illumian warblade/warmage. These days, he’s a 10th-level human warlord.

(Emphasis mine)

No warlord/wizard there!

Edit: Ninja attack!

 

[WhatGravitas]

No warlord/wizard there!

Whoah... but then, what about that:

Anyway, that seems like plenty for now… and I’ll spare you the description of my second-guessing about whether I should have gone wizard first and then multiclassed into warlord instead of the other way around.

If that's about talent trees, then wizards sound baaad, because they're... well a bit fragile to load up some warlord stuff? This means... something very different, I assume.

Cheers, LT.

 

[Aage]

If you can infact buy talents from other classes, it would seem that a talent in any class is equally worth. In that case, the base chassis of the wizard class must in fact be equal to that of a fighter or a rogue.. what he loses in HD and skills he regains in something else... but what?

 

[TwinBahamut]

Considering I am playing a Warblade emphasizing White Raven maneuvers (among other things) in a game right now, I don't think ti is surprising that I like the sound of the Warlord right now. I also really like the name "Hammer and Anvil".

I think I am not going to bother trying to figure out how 4E multiclassing works right now. I don't have enough information, and I am just too familiar with 3E multiclassing to easily think of alternatives. But the ideas of being a warlord/wizard who has no levels in wizard, and that there is an important difference between starting as a warlord and starting as a wizard, are interesting.

 

[Rechan]

I set my Strength high because most warlord powers rely on melee attacks, and it’s useful just for dishing out some extra melee damage anyway. Warlords also have class features and powers that make use of Intelligence and Charisma

*#$%! Abilities that deal with Str, Int AND Cha?

I thought they were getting rid of Multi-Ability Dependent classes. Consider this one of the few things that actually angers me about 4e.

 

[Aage]

*#$%! Abilities that deal with Str, Int AND Cha?

I thought they were getting rid of Multi-Ability Dependent classes. Consider this one of the few things that actually angers me about 4e.

No, I think that rather they are going in the opposite direction; getting rid of single-ability dependent classes.. At least I hope so. If all classes are MAD, then MAD is no longer a problem for an individual class... And it creates a decision for the player; "do I emphasise on my tactical know-how (int), my influencial leadership (cha) or my raw fighting power (str), rather than just (as in 3.5) "I'm a wizard so I have int... only"

 

[hong]

No, I think that rather they are going in the opposite direction; getting rid of single-ability dependent classes.. At least I hope so. If all classes are MAD, then MAD is no longer a problem for an individual class... And it creates a decision for the player; "do I emphasise on my tactical know-how (int), my influencial leadership (cha) or my raw fighting power (str), rather than just (as in 3.5) "I'm a wizard so I have int... only"

That would be ideal, IMO.

 

[Kobu]

(although I considered half-elf just because they multiclass well).

W.T.F.

Did anyone express the opinion that favored classes were cool in any way? If you did, know that I hate you.

Anyway, that seems like plenty for now… and I’ll spare you the description of my second-guessing about whether I should have gone wizard first and then multiclassed into warlord instead of the other way around.

Not cool. If the multiclassing is so perfect, it shouldn't matter which way you do it.

 

[mhacdebhandia]

For example, one of my favorite warlord powers is Hammer and Anvil. The warlord takes a swing at a bad guy, and he picks an ally who threatens that same target and grants that ally an immediate attack against the bad guy. Lots of fun!

"One . . . two . . . three!"

Awesome.