Ring of nine lives qn

[Xarlen]

Yes, but it only has 9 charges. Your cleric buddy can pull more heals then that out of his butt within two days.

By that same token, who needs magic weapons, when the cleric can just cast Greater Magic Weapon? Who needs Bracers of Armor when the wizard can just cast Mage Armor?

Since you're paying a buttload of cash for it, it *better* have some use for it.

 

[1337 h4xor]

Yes, but it only has 9 charges. Your cleric buddy can pull more heals then that out of his butt within two days.

By that same token, who needs magic weapons, when the cleric can just cast Greater Magic Weapon? Who needs Bracers of Armor when the wizard can just cast Mage Armor?

Since you're paying a buttload of cash for it, it *better* have some use for it.

AMAZING the cleric can pull contingencied insta full heals when you're about to be blown to bits from wherever he is, which prestige class allows you to do that? and he even gets to cast it form his butt, is that a feat?

79,000 gp is not a butload of cash for a ring that does more than some artifacts.

 

[kreynolds]

Yes, but it only has 9 charges.

The ring has a maximum of 8 charges, not 9. The life you had before you got the ring is the 9th, or the first, depending on how you look at it.

 

[kreynolds]

You could alter the ring slightly to make it automatic OR use activated. That should not change the cost at all, and you could use it when you are at 2 HP with a dragon bearing down on you.

If I was to remove the auto-heal function of the ring, I would probably halve the cost of that function (24,000gp), since the function would only be half as useful. It would still be a nice ring though.

 

[Xarlen]

Butt Casting.
You are able to spontaniously cast spontanious spells when you most need it.
Prerequisits: Spellcraft 15, Knowledge (Anatomy) 5, Able to cast 5th level spells.
Benefit: Twice per day, you are allowed to trade 1 spell from your spell list, to use it when you need it most. Roll a Spellcraft check (DC 30+spell level). If you succeed, you cast.



The soonest that a PC could purchase this ring is 12th level. And since 12th level PCs recieve but 88,000 gp as wealth, that's one broke character. Not to mention for 8,000 gp more, a Ring of True Res could be just as obtainable, as pointed out by Kreynolds. Compare True Res to this ring, eh?

Also, the cleric can do that with a Reached heal (15th level caster). Or a Rod of Greater Reach metamagic.

Or, if need be, have the Magic domain, cast Contingency from a scroll, and then plop heal down on it.

Howsat?

 

[kreynolds]

AMAZING the cleric can pull contingencied insta full heals when you're about to be blown to bits from wherever he is, which prestige class allows you to do that? and he even gets to cast it form his butt, is that a feat?

Actually, a cleric wouldn't need Contingency. If you already look pretty haggard, the cleric could just ready an action to cast Heal on you if someone attacks you. Essentially, that's all the ring does, which is why Contingency isn't even needed for the construction of the ring, or even other items like it, such as the Death Ward armor enhancement.

Granted, with the readied action example above, you would be healed, but you would then be hit with the attack. Maybe that's one way that you could rule how the ring works? Instead of the ring simply negating the damage from the attack, and fully healing you, you could rule that the ring casts Heal on you before the attack comes, then you take the damage from the attack. That's certainly not out of the question, and seems like a perfectly reasonable alternative.

Besides, the ring is three times the cost (8,750gp per charge) of an item that simply allows you to use heal on yourself (2,640gp per charge). That's a pretty big difference in cost.

 

[Xarlen]

Hey, Kreynolds! Like my first Feat O' Humor?

Can also be done through a magical item. Enima of Spellcasting. Hm... actually, that'd be more potion-like...

 

[kreynolds]

Hey, Kreynolds! Like my first Feat O' Humor?

You're missing a prerequisite......Colon Blow (Ex).

 

[Xarlen]

Hee!

That's why you're the Pimp.

 

[00durrin]

The ring has a maximum of 8 charges, not 9. The life you had before you got the ring is the 9th, or the first, depending on how you look at it.

actually i don't think that's true...from the book it says "a ring of nine lives has 9 charges when created, but most are found with only 2d4 charges left"
this brings up many interesting points...the first of which being to negate any argument about value, because if you find it, it's free. the second point is that you're wrong...so nee ner nee ner nee ner, it CAN have 9 charges. the third and most interesting point however, is that if they're found, someone had to have created it. it stands to reason that if someone created it someone used it...what's funny is that that person is dead even though they had a ring of nine lives. Presumably it could have 8 charges left (2d4 maxed out). My contention is that they were hit by something that dropped them to -10 outright and their charge was expended, dropping it to 8, but still leaving them dead, right where you found the ring. THERE...does that settle EVERY argument?
hmmmph!